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Value of Lusso grille?

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  1. Bmxramsred

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    #1 Bmxramsred, Nov 25, 2009
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    Can anyone give me an idea how much a Lusso grille in very good condition is worth?

    Thanks,

    Miles
     
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    "2004 360 F1 Spider, s/n 137002". My guess is, about then?

    When was the last time you saw a Daytona for this price?

    "1972 365GTB/4 Daytona, s/n 14201. Red/tan, 56,287 km, factory air plus supplemental rear air, optional wide Borranis, looks great, runs/drives extremely well, just serviced and ready for enjoyment. $139,500"

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    PS. Miles sorry about the highjack...

    Why not put it on e-bay and see what happens? High enough reserve, and if does not sell where you want it to be, then you'll know what the market will bear.

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    #7 John Vardanian, Jan 12, 2011
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    It would probably be less trouble making one from scratch than to try and fit this to a car. Quality of Scaglietti craftsmanship is crap.

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    Does anybody reading this, know how to make a grille?

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    Sure. Although we'd like think so, but be it a Model T or a Type 59, nothing about old cars is aerospace science and none of the experts have PHd's (with the exception of a couple in Southern California). Just self tought skills…

    Tom made his own grill from scratch: http://www.tomyang.net/cars/ferrari.html

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    #10 TTR, Jan 13, 2011
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    Shouldn't be a big deal and I can make You a windshield (or any other curved glass/window) for any of Your classic/vintage car(s) while we're at it. And no PhD's here either, ;-)
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    That could come in handy.

    What is your process, Timo, for making a new windshield? What sort of pattern, measurement, or other info do you need?
     
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    #12 TTR, Jan 17, 2011
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    Matt,
    there are multiple approaches to this, but the one I prefer to ensure guaranteed fit for a given application is to make any and all patterns myself. This requires the vehicle (car, boat or ?) to be brought to my shop or, on some occasions, I have traveled to the location of the vehicle. The latter, of course, requires access to "proper" shop facilities with reasonable provisions for metal-fabrication (i.e. compressed air, welding equipment, etc.). I can also, if insisted upon; work with a pattern created by someone else (i.e. owner, restorer, etc.), but for obvious reasons cannot be held responsible for the fit. However, a couple of times I've actually refused to work with provided patterns as I was able to see that any final product based on them would have been unacceptable, even though the highly regarded fabricators/creators of these patterns believed them to be quite "perfect fit". In those instances, any further, but required adjustments would have had to be based on pure guesswork and yet, would have been viewed as shifting the responsibility of the fit on me.
    Unlike some aftermarket glass providers for rare and/or coach-built cars, I guarantee the fit, but only for the car that the pattern was fashioned from, even though the car in question might be a "production" model. A Good example of the aforementioned situation would be a job from couple of years ago, when I was contacted/commissioned to install/replace one of these "one-size-fits-all" windshields to a 250 Comp. Cal Spider. Said car and glass were delivered to my shop and after removing the old glass (broken and not quite fitting either), I spent considerable effort initially studying and attempting to install the provided replacement item when it became clear that it would require not only severe modifications to the surrounding frame/trim-work and the convertible mechanism (= reshaping of header-bow, which would've resorted to having to have new canvas top made, etc.), but also the body-shape of the cowl should've been modified to ensure even reasonably appealing fit. After reporting my findings with supporting photo-documentation to the client, conclusion was that it would actually be easier and more cost-effective to produce a fitting glass from scratch. Rarely does a windshield based on a single sample production model "Enzo-era" Ferrari fit another similar model without major body-work or drama; I'm sure many restoration-/body-shops could probably attest to this. The same goes for many other small "coach-built" production models of other manufacturers, may they be British, French, Italian, etc.
    Also, every time I read or hear stories like the one in a recent Cavallino regarding Vignale-bodied 375 restoration and the unnecessary procedures and pains they were forced to go through to come up with a fitting windshield makes me cringe. I would find such accounts almost laughable if they weren't so unfortunately common and sad. I've seen some nightmarish results of similar approaches on few occasions. One such example was a "one-of/coach-built" '50's Bentley, which had been freshly painted and was in final stages of restoration assembly. The people responsible for the glass installation (and whom, I was told, were highly regarded restoration/paint/body-work experts on classic and exotic cars), not only broke both the windshield and the back-glass, which both had been original to the car, but quietly disposed of them without initially telling the owner and then took similar shape glass from a similarly built (by same coach-builder) Rolls' of same era and proceeded in trying to make them fit by not only attempting to grind the glass smaller (and eventually breaking both in the process), but also by grinding the pinch-welded attachment lip of the window-openings almost completely off (supposedly to help ease installation?). This is where I was brought in and not only did I managed to produce appropriately fitting windshield and back-glass (and that was the easy part!), but I had to fabricate and attach (by welding!) appropriate pinch-welded lip replacement prior to glass pattern fabrication. Keep in mind, all this on a beautiful and freshly painted alloy-bodied car, while trying to do everything carefully enough to prevent scratching, and more importantly, heat-transfer on a aluminum coach-work, so that the finish around the openings wouldn't be affected to the point of the car requiring new or further paintwork. Needless to say, I succeeded, but the point is the steps created by all previous, yet unnecessary efforts and the frustration the owner had to endure before my services were enlisted.

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