Hamilton overtakes

I must admit, I do like Hamilton. I know most here probably won't as he is an enemy combatant on the track, but I still like the way he drives.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

Excellent stuff, A nice video selection for any detractor who consistently denies, criticizes, or doubts his skill.

 

The guy Hamilton surely spends a lot of time outside the track ...

 

But at the same time he's capable of this:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnCsG0DlXkU[/ame]

Whilst not paying attention to what was happening ahead of him.

Or this:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVTZiKJy2IY[/ame]

binning it on the last lap and throwing away a valuable third place in an unrealistic attempt to pressure Button into a mistake. At the time he was too far back for Button to really notice him and it was a exercise in futility.



He's a great racing driver, nobody can really argue that and it would be great for F1 if there were more on track who drove like he does.

However, the biggest problem I have with him is his arrogant and smarmy, goody two shoes, "I never do anything wrong!" attitude. He's far too smug and makes statements such as: "McLaren is the greatest team in the world", when he's never been anywhere else!.


It's not his driving I don't like, it's just his personality once he's out of the car!.

 

Agree.

In GP2 he was awesome to watch though, but GP2 in general is more fun to watch than F1 nowadays unfortunately .

 

The first post in this thread raves about Hamilton's driving ability, like he's the only one capable of these manoeuvres and hints at some sort of superior driver to the rest. I've merely shown two examples where he isn't that great.

My first clip shows an elementary error in not noticing that the car ahead has stopped (you'd fail your driving test for that!).

The second clip shows that he forced himself into an error when it was obvious that what he was trying to achieve (forcing Button into a mistake), was never going to happen based on how far back he was. Most drivers would have realised this and avoided throwing away third place

As I say though, it's not his driving that's the biggest issue for Me, it's everything about him once he's out of the car!.

 

Oh man alive not again!! can't we just have one thread without this constant bashing.

The guy can drive period.

Everyone can be made to look good and bad in video clips.

However finding extra grip in treacherous equalizing conditions is a natural sixth sense very few are blessed with.

I can admire him even driving for the wrong team.

I for one do not care what comes out of his clap trap, I haven't met him, and those on here that have met him, sing his praises.

 

The looser has problems operating a gearbox:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mMEQm46loE[/ame]

And driving into the pitlane:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sR9rKvXscM[/ame]

His driving style... depends if Mclaren are able to steal and lie about stealing someone else's car designs!

 

there are video clips being used to show him as an outstanding driver and other clips to show that he does not get it right all the time.

By the same token, spotting that the car ahead is stationary at a red light is a natural sense that any driver should be blessed with.

Even if he drove for Ferrari, the smug attitude would grate with Me, besides, Kimi and Mika drove for McLaren and I honestly never had a problem with either of them!, same goes for Jenson Button now he's at McLaren.

I suspect you've not met Michael Schumacher either and yet you're prepared to judge him as uncaring (from another thread) :

(BTW, I'd have to say, It's a bit strange for such an uncaring person to give $10 million dollars of his own personal money to tsunami victims ).



Public persona is a big part of being a professional sportsperson, always has been, always will. People are judged on their personalities as well as their abilities and for some, Myself included, Hamilton (outside the car), is a irritating.The British press and TV coverage about him hasn't helped either.


If you want a thread that doesn't have anybody criticising Hamilton, Might I suggest a McLaren forum as you're fighting a losing battle if you think Hamilton's going to get any serious love on a Ferrari site, as has been posted previously, look at how Massa and Alonso get treated! (and a lot of that is based on their personalities).

Like I say, as a driver I rate Hamilton highly. I honestly think he is probably the best natural driver to emerge in F1 since Schumacher and he could become one of the all time greats. However, for Me to like him fully, he'd have to tone the smugness right down!.


You and I could discuss this 'til we're a hundred and ten and still not agree, but that's life!

 

You just can't help yourself, no wonder you get grief at work..

Why bring MS and his dream team years again into the equation, I just don't get it. but by all means feel free to if you have to use the big guns to attack Hamilton, it only increases his stock IMO.

And why do you have to drag the senseless (I dont like the guy bashing) from another thread to this one

I get your point you don't like him, so what he does his talking on the track, and really I figure thats what you really don't like! otherwise I wouldn't hear a squeak out you would I.

I stump up some cash (not alot) for this forum because I like the feedback and it has been very helpfull from various sources for my car, it is a Ferrari so it can be very helpfull.

So for your Mclaren forum comment, don't insult me, I expect better here, not I dont like Hambone because he shaves his legs ect..

I happen to like F1 and post alot here, I said before it does not matter a jot to me who Hamilton drives for, or any other driver I happen to admire if there good I will rate accordingly.

Personally I have not met any of the current drivers, however I would hold my tongue before slaggling of any of them I have never met, because in the real face to face world I dont believe said person would say what they think, afterall it is the press your basing your opinions on, or have you met him.?

Besides I don't rate a driver from what comes out of his mouth.

You'll be telling me next Alonso should consider a career in the church he is so nice and affable.

Oh for sure you will always butt heads with me, with this line of thinking.

 

This is why I stay clear of Hamilton threads, because it always seems if you like him then your the bad guy for not only liking Ferrari drivers.

 

He has been groomed by Ron Dennis to be very PR, and brainwashed into believing that there is no other team worth driving apart from McLaren.

Let's be fair, so far, he owes then every aspect of his career. Growing in the shadow of Dennis was like entering holly orders at puberty: you got to believe it 100%.

I don't know how he will react when his star begins to fade at McLaren: he knows nothing else!

 

Good driver. I like Alonso more.

 

First rule of driving. Stop at a red light!

Hamilton's pure inability to stop at a red light in Canada illustrates his level of driving ability!

Showcase that!

 

Like Alfonso didn't try to hold Hammy up in the pits. How is it that the two time champ was only able to TIE a rookie in the points standings? In actuality Hamilton finished AHEAD of Alonso even though they were tied in points. Cry baby had to go back to Renault and still had to have a cheat to win. Sad sad. While Hamilton is not perfect, we shouldn't let our love of Ferrari cloud our vision. Hamilton is as good or better than Alonso, this was proved his first year. And then the next year he won the championship, over a Ferrari driver, who cried because he didn't win. Then McLaren had a dog car, but Hamilton still had more wins than Ferrari that whole year (2009). We can go on and on about Hamilton, but we could do the same for Alfonso too. What happened this year when he blamed a rookie for not letting him pass in Abu Dhabi? He said Petrov costed him the championship. No one is perfect, but the hate Hamilton gets is way out of proportion. If Alonso was in Hamilton's place and Hamilton was in Alonso's place, would there still be the hate? Think if he drove for Ferrari, would people here still hate? I don't understand it. Alonso isn't my favorite driver, but he's good. But all of them have their faults. My guy is Kobayashi, him and Hamilton make F1 exciting.

 

Lewis may have a bit more talent than most of the field but IMO its his determined attitude that has made him successful. The same attitude that offends so many people when he's out of the car. Same for Alonso and Schumi.
In F1 nice doesn't win races.

 

He's definitely one of the best, of not the best overtaker at the moment out there. His performance at the British GP a few years ago was awesome.

 

+1
Nail meets head.

 

Hakkinen? Hunt? Stewart? Clark?
They didn't need to be arrogant jerks to be WDC, did they?

 

So your saying Hamilton is a arrogant jerk.?

 

I get grief at work because as a warranty and quality inspector, I have to tell people where they haven't done their job correctly. One thing My job has taught Me is that some people just can't accept criticism, be it about themselves or others.

The point to the link was that in your response you implied that I am making a judgment without really knowing the guy whereas people who have actually met him say he's a sound guy. However, in your post from the other thread, you passed judgment in the exact way about Schumacher.

In which case why would I waste My time and energy writing that I think he's a great talent on track but it's just his persona out of the car that grates with Me?. Trust Me, if it was his driving that I have an issue with, I wouldn't spend anytime fannying about trying to make that point!.

Hmmmm..... I was not aware that to have an opinion on a driver you had to subscribe to the site!. If this is not the case, why mention the subscription issue?.

The McLaren forum comment was made because you do not seem able to accept that Ferrari F1 fans (not just general F1 fans), on a Ferrari based site, are not all going to rave about Hamilton in every post about him. However, I suspect that on the McLaren forums they will!.

I believe I have already said the reason why he grates with Me is not due to him driving for McLaren:

Yes, that's definitely what I have previously posted.

And yet you labeled Michael Schumacher as "uncaring"?.

I've actually had the opportunity to meet him a couple of times but I've turned it down each time as I felt it was better for all concerned. (If only it Had been the chance to meet any of the Ferrari drivers,now that would be a completely different matter!).

I'll be sure to remember that!.

Why?. He's a determined driver who's a regular at playing mind games, who's prepared to go wheel to wheel with his fellow competitors including his own team mate, who can be petulant and moody when he doesn't get his own way (but then he does have a Latin temperament to contend with).
I wouldn't say he goes as far as Schumacher did by deliberately driving into fellow drivers but he's no saint (feel free to post anything I have ever written that says otherwise).

Things I do like about him is that he does not come across to Me as being smug and irritating (but I'm sure you'll feel differently), I haven't had to put up with the British press and TV making out that he's the most important thing in F1 ever (which is not of Hamilton's making but My God he does like to be the centre of attention everywhere he goes!. Give Me a driver like Kimi every time, no: "notice Me!, Notice Me!", he just got on and drove the car!), and most importantly to Me, he drives for Ferrari.

Not any more, you seem to be taking it all far too personally so I'll not bother with any of the Hamilton threads anymore, it seems there are too many shrinking violets on here who can't accept that not everyone loves Lewis.