Never done this before with pics... hope this worked. And I apologize if i'm already stating whats already been said. Looks pretty similar to me! LOL Image Unavailable, Please Login
Hawkeye - I had to stop and read this sentence three or four times. It is brilliant. I'm not sure if you just came up with this statement on your own or read it elsewhere, but I must confess it is the most perfectly stated and wonderfully clear explanation of why I fell in love with Ferrari.
I see what you're saying Hawkeye, and to me this is exactly what the FF is about. It makes what would normally be a tedious journey in a standard (or German ) family wagon and gives it that Ferrari spirit.
Oh no, I meant the one I posted. It should look a lil more like your pic but I think Ferrari really blew it this time. I hope the 599 replacement does way better.
Your pic and my pic are far more closely related to each other than the FF. I think most would agree if you look at them together. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
How can they be profitable on a limited production car that's uglier than sin and might not sell at any volume? Curious as to the break even point of sales verses development costs. Sounds like another loss for the Prancing Horse. And those that might buy are faced with the inevitable higher than normal deprciation curve that Ferrari suffers from on their "modern" front engine V12 offerings.....Is the FF really a mass market car? or just a placeholder at the top wrung of the ladder of their average consumer offerings? JD
Never have been and never will be. It just makes it easier for me to get a hold of them down the road
So who got to see the FF 'in the flesh' so to speak when it was privately shown at Cavallino? Maybe they can comment on how the design looks in 3 dimensions instead of a picture... CH
Because it is... But seriously, one of the reasons its so expensive because of the cost of development. Most likely, they will make 400 to 500 cars per year for the next 5 years. They already know that. They already know who a lot of the customers are. I would expect the AWD technology to show up on the new 599 to share it's cost of developement for this. I would be shocked if this car was the only AWD in the Ferrari line up in the future. In fact, a lot of it will be shared with other cars to help make the project more profitable. It's no different now than it was in Enzo's time. When you have low production cars, it's more difficult to avoid sharing key components. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Another good point. It's also why they are playing around with hybrids and these auto shut/start up systems. Others have it so they have to react. This thing has 28 Cu Ft of cargo space. That's huge for a Ferrari. Why? Because the people who will buy this car WANT that much space or they will by a Rolls or Maybach. When you spend 400 grand on a family car, you don't want to hear you can't fit the family or your golf clubs in the back because "it's just not Ferrari-like". There are no more excuses anymore in today's auto world. Purists and Fchatters will hate it. But, a lot of the potential owners will love it.
Exactly, Ferrari's can't have as many of those annoying quirks that were of the past. Ferrari would be pretty confused to hear that owners want their cars to have more little issues because "that's how it used to be." It's the same case with manuals vs. paddles.
Again it sounds like they're looking to broaden the marque so they can sell multiple cars to each customer.
Nailed it. I had the same thought. While truly unfortunate looking, it is not the absolutely worst car in the world. Thank Pontiac for the Aztek.