Looks very nice but shouldn't have outside mirror, ferrari logo on engine bay paint removed (why do people do this??), and I question whether the two tone interior black/red is original.
If you read Sheehan's history page, he shows the interior as having been redone in red in 2002-- it was black originally. I'm somewhat interested in this car, although I don't know if I can justify purchasing another car at the moment. Any other thoughts or comments on it?
Standard set up?????? That looks like a 330gt set up. It should have a canister with fram oil bath filter in it.
Most if not all 2nd series cars I am aware/have collected data of have a spin-on by-pass (PB50) on inner fender and a main filter in horizontal position on engine, so that is a standard set-up for me! Best wishes, Kare
The fender-mounted canister filter housing with the filter inserted into the oil bath is associated with the inside plug engines only. There is also a two-layer brass screen filter in a chamber within the timing case, below the center generator. The chamber is capped by the fan assembly. There is no such chamber with the outside plug engine case. The wheels are wrong (as acknowledged in the description of the car), too wide. They spoil the otherwise elegant stance of the coupe and look like an injection of steroids.
Has anyone tried to re-clothe the cage with new mesh? I wonder if this would be easy to do seeing that the cage may be so contaminated with oil over the decades that re-brazing may not be possible. john
My father has owned this car since late 1967 but he knew it and worked on it for a few years before that. He's repeatedly indicated he thought he bought it earlier but his notes indicate otherwise. It has never been a runner in all the time I've known it. I've never made a serious attempt to research its earlier history even though I've inquired at the local Ferrari dealer where casual inquiries bore no fruit during the 1980's. The dealer told me to contact Ferrari and, while visiting Ferrari, I was told to inquire through my local dealer. I came to the conclusion that neither Ferrari nor the local dealer cared about their older cars during the 1980's. It was OK. I was in no hurry. In fact, there is no hurry even now. 1429/GT is a drum-brake, inside-plug car without overdrive. The paint is a dark grey metallic but I haven't looked to see if there is a color code. The interior is medium-light blue in leather. I haven't checked to see if there is a mix of materials. The Pinin Farina body number is 22181 and the engine "interno" number is 0432D. The digit "3" appears as if it may have been overstamped on a "0" that was mostly "erased" with a round punch larger than the digit. It has been a long time since the car has been out in the light of day so I have no good digital photos of it. I will get it out one of these days and correct that. The engine is finally coming together after being apart since before my father bought it. I've grown up with the car as a family member and have always sort of taken it for granted. Something nice to have but there's been no visceral enjoyment so it has suffered some lack of attention. I recently drove a 250GT that was slightly later and this gave me some hope that the car will be a far more exciting and pleasant car to drive than I expected. I think it is time to do some checking into the car's history. In late 1967 my father, Jarl de Boer, bought 1429/GT from William Cartwright in the San Francisco Bay Area. "Bill Cartwright" and "Hoss Cartwright" were other names he went by. He was a big guy! He worked the local races in the 1960's and later. In fact, there is a "worker pass" sticker on the windscreen from 1966. The car was registered on California "black" plates "NLP151" and I wonder if this will give a clue to the time when it first was licensed in California? In fact, I should get my father to dig out the title and registration paperwork as there may be additional clues there. It's a bit amazing to me that I've counseled others in this sort of research but haven't yet done it for this car. When I was young, before I began collecting historical data on Italian cars, I restored an Austin Healey "100-4" (BN2) for Bill and it did not occur to me to ask him what he knew of the Ferrari's earlier history. In fact, I don't think I was aware at the time that the car had come from him. An opportunity missed! Does anybody know anything more about 1429/GT? John de Boer
I only have the basic build info: Started by Pininfarina on 29/apr/59 with work number 22181: Grigio fumo MM16672 (smoke grey) with full leather interior grigio 3230 (grey). Full leather interior seems to have been a more luxurious alternative compared to standard vinyl & leather interior. Around 70 Coupés and 30 Cabrios are listed with this option. Best wishes, Kare
Previously unfound/unseen on the Register...any chance you could post photos. I will then create a page for it for posterity sake. http://web.me.com/djaffrey/Registry/Home.html Regards Darren.
Thank you Kare. You made me go and have a look. Something I should have done before I wrote my description above. I had to move some stuff to get to it. The interior is gray indeed. Although I see a tiny bit of bluish cast in the gray, this is definitely not blue. Photos show the tunnel cover and its redundant Pinin Farina numbering. Thanks again, John Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I saw this car last week end at Spa. The owner (E. Pery) said to me it was 1303GT. Can anyone confirm ? Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
You think ? It certainly isn't, in my opinion, prettier than an honest to goodness unmolested 250 PF Coupe. I would take anyone of these cars below over that one every day of this life and my next : http://web.me.com/djaffrey/Registry/Series_1_Cars/Pages/1381_GT.html http://web.me.com/djaffrey/Registry/Series_1_Cars/Pages/1201_GT.html http://web.me.com/djaffrey/Registry/Series_2_Cars/Pages/1927_GT.html But you are of course entitled to your opinion and I respect that...so...I kind of like the colour and the non standard wing mirror by way of concurrence ! And I have no doubt the owner loves it and good luck to him. I love my children but I don't forsee Models One snapping them up anytime soon. Beauty, eye, beholder. Darren.
nothing is sure for me! the paddock said "0931GT" (wrong : the car was also owned by E. Pery, then sold and now rebodied as a 250 TdF) the driver "1033" (definitively not) and the owner "1303" (why not ?) ! where is the truth ?
I was able to inspect this car on Saturday during Spa Classic and I can say it is a complete replica!! No s/n on the chassis tubes, no internal engine number, very strange rear axle.... only real thing I saw on this car is probably the s/n plate in the engine compartiment which indeed showed s/n 1303 GT. Best regards Kevin
John, this body came from 0931gt you can find a photo on the cover of Starkys TDF book (first edition). This body was made after 0931gt severly crashed in the mid 70th.( Period repair) the problem with handling at high speed is the lack of down force in the back. so full fueltank or two heavy persons -200kg-will help. in 1999/2000 the car0931gt was compleetly rebodied to org. specifications in Cuneo (Autorestauro) http://www.barchetta.cc/german/pirro/galleries.eventi/fshc97.nr/0931GT.250.GT.TDF.htm Cornelis
Are you sure that the body of the present car came from 0931GT ? Obviously 0931GT was also owned by E. Pery, with the same body style, but it seem's that it's a new body now.. Other thing : the gearbox monted on this car is bit special, with 1st to 4th from right to left
Mr. Etienne, Who is 100% sure here, but i think after the org. car was rebodied the" old body" was not distoid seems logical to me , -same owner-or it was used as a model for a new body. That schift pattern is NOT special at all, most 250gt Boano/ Ellena has this "wrong" schifting,probely done for older cars with RHD in the old days. best C.
