The Official "Jay Leno Doesn't Like Ferraris" Thread

Maybe he thinks the dealer should kiss his ass, maybe he wanted to buy at msrp because he is rich and famous, maybe he didn't wanted to get in line to wait for his new Ferrari... Those are the reasons I was told. Maybe those aren't the reasons, but we all have been there at some point and sometimes encountered with some jerk salesman (I just move on to a nice one) at a Ferrari showroom, oh well, that jerk wont deviate from buying what I have a passion for. Leno has no passion for Ferrari and only gives empty negative comments.

 

I'll try, this was too silly sounding to not look up LOLOL

ersatz I understood but seraglio?

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So to fully pass this judgement on Me. Leno as you have I trust your seraglio is non-ersatz and non-synthetic(i.e. not the blow up variety)?

OHHHH you were talking about a fake palace, I get it now...

seriously?

 

seems you and a few others care as opposed to him who has little to prove in the car hobby world when you can BUILD ground up a turbine car with your connections in the automotive industry and beyond... I bet you surfed right past that on speed...

As I asked once already, this thread makes f car owners/non owners happier about themselves how?

It's really a good thing this seems minority thought(loose use of the term) around here as it's off putting to see this go on.

 

Funny, his reasoning for not owning a modern Ferrari is pretty much the same as mine. Granted, I haven't the assets for a modern Ferrari, but even if I did I would not be very interested as there is essentially next to nothing I would be able to do on the thing which sort of ruins the hobby for me.

That being said, Jay must be a glutton for punishment owning old Lambo's. Oof. Well, I guess they are nothing compared to the steam jobs he has.

 

Several people here have seen his collection...including myself. I was at Jay Leno's Garage just a few weeks ago.

I actually had the chance to ask Jay what events he likes to attend. The ones he mentioned are all in California. He goes to Monterey every year and (probably) sees enough Ferraris there.

As for his collection, the vast majority of it is old. Really old. He was cruising about inside his garage in a 1909 Baker Electric when I was there. He has a whole room of just Duesenburgs and another of Stanley Steamers. So yes, I think he is a gearhead and a down to earth car lover. While I never asked him why he has no Ferraris, I think the answer is simply "who cares". It's just his choice.

 

No, but thanks for illustrating how "a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing", indeed.

 

No, I don't care if he owns any or none. He is a car guy and has the choice of buying whatever he likes, and lucky him that can afford any car. What I don't like is how every time there is Leno and Ferrari in the same sentence people look at it as if a prophet has spoken. Whatever I typed earlier is based on "forum myth", thats why I said maybe so much. The car world is a better place with him because he has a collection of cars that he restores and keep them going forward into the future. He is got knowledge of what he owns and he is very talkative about them and good around people.

Forums are here for communication and sometimes our personalities are based on black and white of whatever we write, there's not much room for expression. Sometimes I write like I do and at heart I'm sixteen years old even if I'm around twice that age. I wasn't putting Leno down in a bad way, just the way a young man would talk to his young friends after a few beers and a cigarette.

Life is short, damn it.

 

hahahahaha

 

When I was there in 2003, he flat out said he's not (nor his staff) allowed to touch the McLaren - even though the tool kit is right behind the car. Said he has to call McLaren (almost as if there was some implied warranty). This includes oil changes.

So the statement he likes to work on his cars conflicts with his ownership of the F1

 

A Ferrari in Leno's Garage.

Today I was watching the repeat episode of Top Gear where they "interviewed" Jay for his opinion on the new Honda hydro-electric car. They did the obligatory pan/walk through of his garage and there it was..............Ferrari 308. He may not own it, but it's in his garage.
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I've seen Jay Leno several times at car shows here in So Cal. He is usually followed around a little bit, but he is always gracious, takes a few pictures with fans and always will talk cars with the people at the show. When he brings an unusual car he is happy to explain the quirks and history of the car just like most owners will. He is very knowledgable. He is a nice guy who loves cars. I must admit, I don't think I've ever seen him eat a bagel

Regards,

Stew

 

Yes, but Ford and Jaguar are not Ferrari, nor is any other marque, for that matter. When a brand has established themselves as the most successful Formula 1 team in the history of the sport, F1 of course being the epitome of racing, then the marque cannot be ignored if you call yourself a "car guy". Okay, let me rephrase what I am getting at........if you are a sports car guy, and have as much money as Jay has, then Ferraris have to be part of the equation, especially if you are into Lambos and McLarens. There's no way you can discard Ferrari as a car. If you have problems with something else (like the styling, or the dealerships), then come out and say it.

Any "sports car" guy coming out and disses Ferrari for their cars is a poseur, and has no clue as to what they are talking about. They can maybe not be crazy about styling, but the performance cannot be questioned. And to me, this is what being into sports cars is all about.

 

"Any "sports car" guy coming out and disses Ferrari for their cars is a poseur, and has no clue as to what they are talking about. They can maybe not be crazy about styling, but the performance cannot be questioned. And to me, this is what being into sports cars is all about."
Well ive dissed all the cars ive owned at some time or another including ferrari and lamborghini...and i am no poseur....and i dont think Jay is either...its a personal choice

 

He could well be a poseur, but only he would know if he is or not. But the reality is that the dealer thing rubbing him the wrong doesn't equate well because he is got the money and status as to walk straight to the factory and seat with the big boys and order whatever the he'll he wants.

 

Here, maybe this video clip will help answer some of the Leno and Ferrari questions. All within the first 3 minutes or so, he talks about it somewhat his thoughts/opinions.

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/at-the-garage/super-cars/lamborghini-reventon/

 

Respectfully, I have to disagree.

Many of us wouldn't care for a ZR1 or GT-R. And yet, in terms of sheer performance, each will give most any F car a run for its money.

I also think it is a mistake to discount the provenance of other auto manufacturers. You may feel that Ferrari is in a league all its own, but I am sure the folks in (take your pick) __________ Club feel the same way about their respective marques.

My feeling is that the we should pitch a big tent. It is very rare that I find someone who is into cars--any kind of cars, rat rods, hot rods, exotics, domestics, ricers, bizzarrinis, whatever--and we cannot find some common ground and speak the same language. I think that is one of the coolest thing about the car culture, honestly.

So, really, I have no feelings one way or the other about Leno's decision to exclude Ferraris from his collection. It just isn't important to me. I don't consider it a snub at all. Just his personal preference.

 

Like I stated before, it's his loss. That is my opinion. If yours differs, then more power to you. Obviously, Jay's opinion differs as well. More power to him. It really doesn't matter to me, nor does it have any affect on my opinion.

If he chooses to never drive a Ferrari, then he is missing out on one of the most incredible and unique driving experiences in the world of cars. Why a "car guy" would choose that is beyond me.

 

Why does Jerry Seinfeld only own Porsche's? Why doesn't he have a Ferrari in his collection? Its not his taste, or his style. But we can't call Jerry and Jay "Ferrari haters".

Jay Leno has said many times that he enjoys the rare, obscure, collectible automobiles with alot of history and character. In his eyes, Ferrari simply doesn't have those qualities he's looking for.

 

I think it's as simple as this; Jay has always been a Lambo loyalist. Kind of like a Mustang vs Camaro thing, at a higher level.. and now he's too old to care about giving the other side a chance. Not to mention that it would look kind of odd if he just randomly decided to get a Ferrari now.

Thinking about it, Leno getting his first Ferrari could potentially be a good/funny theme for a sketch or show..

 

LOL......do those words not describe Ferraris more than any other marque?

 

I'm 100% positive that Jay respects the performance, quality, and racing heritage of the entire Ferrari lineup. But he just doesn't care to own one. Who cares. He's no less of a car guy in my eyes.

Get off him...

 

Just remember that he can say those very same things about a Ferrari-only owner/enthusiast. How many incredible machines and marques does a Ferrari-only guy miss out on?

And, really the larger point I was making is that I see Jay as being a wonderful emissary for the car enthusiast culture. Jay's enthusiasm for cars in general is goes well beyond any one marque. And the fact that he doesn't collect Ferraris doesn't mean that he isn't knowledgeable about them or their place in the car culture. Jay was on hand at Pebble Beach a few years ago when Ferrari was the featured post-war marque.

 

I'm not going to read through five pages, so forgive me if someone made this point already. Leno gushes about his McLaren-is there a more 'needy' car as far as factory maintenance than one of those?

 

He has said it multiple times, that he has subjected to the 'Ferrari dealer attitude', and didn't like being treated like crap.

From that end I have to agree with him. Most Ferrari dealers I have encountered take advantage of clients as we as disrespect them. As a result I doubt I would buy a car from a Ferrari dealer, or give them any service work. But I wouldn't not own one, because they are way too much fun!