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  1. fxdwgs

    fxdwgs Formula 3

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    #1 fxdwgs, Feb 10, 2011
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    .....it took six hours to change the waterpump.
    We changed the cambelt at the same time although it was from last year only.
    This was really fun.....it took us (we were two) six hours altogether and we changed all the waterhoses as well to yellow silicone ones.

    Now, tomorrow I will clean up in the garage and fill her up with oil and water and see if she starts all right.

    We were a bit tired so we just left with all the tools, buckets etc. in a real mess.

    Thanks again to Ernie and Paul in Norway. Without your writeups it would certainly had been a lot worse.

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  2. sambomydog

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    Cool, good job. As i have always said, changing a belt is a walk in the park. Some folk spend days pissing about with timing dials for hours just to gain nothing, just for the sake of it. If it was running right before the change, it will run right after a sinple belt swap.
    Out of interest, whats holding the cam pulleys in that picture? I usualy clamp them before i remove the belts, whats your method?
    Like i said, good job and i hope it all goes well in the morning:)
     
  3. yelcab

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    I won't agree with that statement. My data is different, but whatever floats your boat.

    For sure, I can't do that in 6 hours. The prep-work alone is 8 hours before the engine even comes out. That is a great job.
     
  4. AceMaster

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  5. sambomydog

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    #5 sambomydog, Feb 10, 2011
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    you dont have to agree with it. I have owned my f355 for 9 years and it has over 100,00 k trouble free miles on it, 80k miles i have put on. Not many on here can say that.
    If it ran right before it will after unless its knocked or disturbed. ts not rocket sience. So yes that floats my boat thanks:)
     
  6. mad dog

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    6 hours - is that a record?
    Taken me weeks and still not quite there!

    If it is just the water pump can that be done by taking out fuel tank instead of engine?
     
  7. sambomydog

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    On a 355 the water pump can be removed from the top of the engine bay to.
     
  8. yelcab

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    On my 355, before the tune up, it was NOT a dog but the throttle response was just a little slow such that heel and toe shifting was not smooth. After the degreeing and tune up, the throttle response was immediate and the heel and toe down shifting was smooth. A very small change, but a very big effect on what I do.
     
  9. Rifledriver

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    Everyone has different standards.

    Many will never know what right is.
     
  10. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Its actually 12 man hours and they are nowhere near finished.


    To slam a belt and waterpump on it is hardly a record.

    Don't know about you but I dont call that the look of a good job.
     
  11. cf355

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    Uh..... from the picture, the cam covers are on & the t belts are off.
    Did you verify the cam timing marks before you removed the t belts?
    I hope nothing shifts on you.
    Now might be a good time to dig out the degree wheel.
    Of course you can pull the motor out in a few hours (done it) and put it back in again in the same day.....but whats the hurry?
    You need to take your time to pay attention to the details.....
     
  12. portogts

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    It looks like a work done by Speedy Gonzalez!!!!!
    I hope all will work well...

    I still prefer using the degree wheel, just to be safe...
     
  13. sambomydog

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    Yea and many may never know what its like to achieve the kind of mileage my F355 has, and its always been reliable and pulls as strong as it ever has. . A few guys on here that know me can vouch for that. And here's to the next 100,000 miles. So quite clearly something's being done "right" now isn't it? Now which F355 owner does not want that from there F355? And i know that many owners will have a good feeling that there engines are more than capable in reaching them kind of figures, degree wheel every single time or not.
    And FYI i do and have used degree wheels in the past on my engine when i think i need to.
     
  14. PAP 348

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    Curious, you have owned it for 9 yrs now. I take it your 355 is your daily driver? :):)
     
  15. sambomydog

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    #15 sambomydog, Feb 10, 2011
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    Used to be PAP yes, between that and my 993. These days i still do between 5-10k miles a year in it. I live in the UK and i use it to travel to Italy, Germany, Monaco and Spain quite a few times a year while following the F1. As well as to both Lemans race weeks to. Oh yes i put the miles on:)
     
  16. PAP 348

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    Fantastic Sambo! Fantastic! :D:D
     
  17. ernie

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    Nice job Bengt, I'm glad to know they helped.
    Paul's writeup is really nice with plenty of pictures. Next time I do my engine out I'm gonna be taking plenty of pics.
     
  18. rbellezza

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    I envy you guys !
     
  19. fxdwgs

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    .....Thomas used a marker pen......
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  20. fxdwgs

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    .....as well as the waterpump can probably be changed without taking the engine out, but I think it is easier to take the frame out than the gas tank. But I do not really know.

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  21. mad dog

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    If you have a 2 post hoist taking out the fuel tank is a doddle. A 4 post may get in way, similarly doing it with jacks may not be high enough. Just drain fuel, undo a few nuts and the pipes and bobs your uncle.

    The only tricky point is undoing those little pipe connectors that I have never really come to grips with, heating them up helps, especially here whilst still wintry.
     

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