Scuderia Glickenhaus P4/5 Competizione

Mr Garella must be a very cool person.



I suggested the guy who took those pics you see there, to come see the test in Vallelunga.


You can see some more pics here

http://venongt.deviantart.com




Any tests going on around Torino in the future?

 

Napolis,
all the pictures are amazing, i'm curious to know what pictures might not tell, and any or what interesting technical 'tid-bits' that you find about the car?

...wonderful project, thanks again for sharing it

 

Out of curiosity how did they pair your tri-y's Jimmy? Reason I ask is because I just had a set made for my car and they got paired sequentially. Wondering if they did yours the same way, or if they paired them old school non sequentially?

 

Sorry the headers.

From the last video, it looks as though you are running try-i headers, also know as 4-2-1 headers. The 4 cylinders of one bank get paired up in 2's, and then those paired cylinders get pair again into one final tube. On my car the primary pipe from cylinder #1 got paired with the primary on cylinder #3 (when they merge together they make the shape of a Y). Then the primary pipe on cylinder #2 got paired with primary pipe on #4 (making the 2nd Y). The paired primary pipes are now merged into a single secondary pipe for each pairing. So the secondaries get merged together into one final pipe (making the 3rd Y shape) = a Tripple Y, or a Tri-Y header. You can see what I talking about better in the thread I posted on my headers. http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=309322

So what I was wondering was how they paired your cylinders? My 348 fires 1-5-3-7-4-8-2-6. So on the 1-4 bank, the custom headers I had made, cylinders 1 & 3 got paired sequentially according to the firing order. Because 1 fired first and then 3 was next to fire on the same bank. Cylinders 4 & 2 got paired, again sequentially according to the firing order. With the old stock headers, cylinders 1 & 4 got paired, then 2 & 3 got paired, nonsequentially, or not according to the firing order.

So...I was wondering how your guys paired your cylinders?

Sorry about the confusion.

 

Right on Jim, I may just do that.

 

You should pair cylinders that fire equally apart. This is why on a normal 4 cylinder engine number 1 and 4 get paired and 2 and 3. This maximises the scavenging because you get even pulses in the pipes. If you pair 1 and 3 you will get a pulse followed by another pulse and then a long wait for the next pulse, ie. 2 pulses then a gap and then 2 pulses and then a gap, etc. That is not optimal for scavenging because the cylinder that has just fired after the long gap will not have as much vacuum.

IMO your stock headers were correct. Note that 1 is not the next to fire after 3.

While improvements can be made to anything, I'd be thinking Ferrari were right as I gathered information from other sources as well ...
Pete

 

Will you be racing with Ferrari badges on the car? This may have already been answered but couldn't find a post. Would be nice to see in the history books.

 

Ferrari on the nose, Scuderia Cameron Glickenhaus on the sides!!!

 

I was under the impression that she would carry your family's shields whilst retaining the Ferrari nose-badge (as in the picture bellow).

I was just curious if there was any particular reason for eliminating the Ferrari nose-badge?
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LOL!!!

 

....and perhaps you have, like many others, run out of patience with Ferrari in general and their legal department in particular defending their shield, badge and any other symbol that they hope to extract revenue from....

Ferrari should be very pleased with this project and even if they don't outwardly support it, should leave it alone. Sadly, I suspect that this is not the case.....

 

Understood

It's quite sad really. This project would only bring them free publicity...

Maybe they're scared by the possibility that a car resulting from a private project might outperform the official cars

 

One can speculate any and all scenario's yet if I was a 'higher up' with Ferrari Jim's project would have had our full support but this is not how things work now, yes sad Jim did not have factory support but I think he may have wanted this to be a full privateer project so no hard feelings towards Ferrari.

Barring any unforseen failures I think P 4/5C has a good chance at beating any factory efforts as we all know what the main goal is and that is to finish.

 

Hear hear

 

Great site! That car is truly amazing.
Wishing you all the success you deserve with that beauty!

 

I have been following on Facebook and here. You have an amazing car. Good luck with your efforts. I am disappointed, but not surprised, that Maranello is not a larger part of your effort.