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  1. msdesignltd

    msdesignltd Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #2 alfas, Feb 15, 2011
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    nothing lightweight about it... my 25mm is mounted on my pen and it's a hunk of glass.

    despite the non light part of it they take wonderful images...

    enjoy it as I've enjoyed mine...

    if you really want light grab the 20mm f1.7 as you only give up a touch of speed.

    I have that too...

    might have looked at the Olympus Pen's as they have the in-body IS which works on any lens mounted and much better EVF... they both come in handy for AF lenses and MF lenses...

    the panny has better HD integration though.

    as mentioned already, enjoy the new kit.

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    Is it hard to handle basically a point and shoot style body with a full scale prime lens hanging off the front? That is a cool little setup though and nice results too!
     
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    What does 4/3s body mean? I don't know anything about cameras. How much does it cost?
     
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    #5 alfas, Feb 15, 2011
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    4/3rds is the sensor size, it competes with asp-c.

    the handling takes a bit to get used to but is entirely doable.

    pricing you can google the gh-2 & 25mm for new pricing.

    if you like prime shooting you are going to want the Oly 50mm f2 next, one of the sharpest lenses produced by anyone and very fairly priced...
     
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    I played with something similar at Best Buy, it was a weird feel in my hands, but after a while you get comfortable with it.

    Great pictures! :)
     
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    Kinda. They're quite a bit smaller than most APS-C sensors, I thought.

    4/3 is the aspect ratio.

    They're basically a mirrorless camera with sensors much larger than those in most compacts, and they have mounts for interchangeable lenses.
     
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    Are there other lenses available? Or just a small selection?
     
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    #10 teak360, Feb 15, 2011
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    Your night/city shot is excellent, and the 20mm f1.7 is the lens I used on my EP-2 to shoot my avatar.
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    The Reason I went for this Camera is....

    That Any Lens, Any Brand can be fitted...with adapter..

    Finally...The Industry made a standard fit ...as in Micro and Micro 4/3rds..

    I believe you can fit a 600mm f4 without prob...

    Fisheye as well..

    This is a trend that will not go away!
     
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    #12 alfas, Feb 16, 2011
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    Teak - the avatar shot is stunning...

    One can fit just about any MF legacy glass with adapters,
    http://www.cameraquest.com/adp_micro_43.htm

    ebay is another source of adapters

    you have AF 4/3rds lenses from Olympus, panasonic & sigma you can mount that fully function on Oly bodies, on panny bodies less so.

    you have native micro4/3rds lenses from Olympus & panasonic & voigtlander nokton f.95 currently available. all told about 20 lenses or so to pick from in native 4/3rds mount that don't need adapter and all but one AF.

    native mount micro3/3rds lenses will be available from cosina, zeiss, sigma, & Schneider Kreuznach in the near future.

    NO current AF lenses(other than 4/3rds mount lenses noted above) will fully function on any m4/3rds body regardless of adapter used, i.e. if you mount any current canon lens for instance it will not stop down or AF. You have MF use only for any of those used. I know there is a m4/3rds to eos adapter, not sure if there are adapters for current nikon, pentax or sony lenses.


    MF glass is fun...
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    4/3 rds has become a world unto itself


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    the gf2 is actually microfourthirds which is based on the fourthirds sensor standard.

    http://www.e-p1.net/

    the mounts are different in size and contacts with 4/3rds having 9 & m4/3rds having 11...

    both are open standards anyone can embrace and make products for should they choose allowing the interchangeability.

    panasonic unfortunately(no competition) is the only source for sensors at this time though as when things started kodak was the supplier to the initial 4/3rds bodies that were offered by Olympus initially and panasonic and leica offered bodies later with panasonic sensors.
     
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    Yes...This cam is Micro 4/3 rds..This series has the potential for the smallest possible body (larger sensor within) and the ability to install the largest or fastest possible lens...
    With the use of adaptors..

    It does not take the place of a good DSLR...
    It is not per say ...Lightweight...although to me it is...
    I like the Portability ..I use it with a neck strap connected to the Tripod screw on bottom of camera..
    It is much easier to walk and Talk as opposed to a full size piece.
    I would go so far to say that if the conditions are right....lighting, subject and camera settings....you can not distinguish the final product from a full size cam..

    So at least 50% of all shots will be pro grade..

    a serious Modular camera to be used in manual modes consistantly

    BTW...all the dog shots are cropped up at least 100%...they still maintain accuracy in focus though!
     
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    #16 alfas, Feb 17, 2011
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    that just depends on what you need as people are ditching dslr's for this system. As long as you don't need fast track AF performance these are all but a match for a dslr system.

    that's because you need the 25's little cousin, the 20mm as it's only a touch larger than the adapter the 25mm needs and is a whole light lighter with little performance give away.
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    Or if you prefer a viewfinder to an LCD.
     
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    there are evf's available for both the Pen series and the gf cameras. the nice thing about those is they can be taken off and stored if not wanting to use them leaving you the option to use either.
     
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    For some reason...I never understood Glass size...the 25 has a filter size of 62...big glass Diameter for small lens..the 20 appears to have smaller Diameter glass, yet maintains a low f stop...to me big glass equal better focus effect , captures more in low light ...

    I do want a lower MM and a higher MM eventually...
    I believe this market 4/3 will continue to grow and superceed the slr market...Less is More!

    Funny....when you say Fast Track Focusing....

    I have noticed something I have never had before...
    The Auto focus is always Live..without depressing the shutter halfway, it continuously is adjusting , even when I point camera down...

    I guess thats for HD movie Capability...But it is always making those lens motor noises..

    Menu has option to stop I'm sure...Cool Though!

    No Viewfinder trains your hands to be your Eyes, dont mind it...EVF is a bad compromise IMHO


    This looks like a Good Next Choice!

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/550043-REG/Panasonic_L_ES014050_14_50mm_f_2_8_3_5_Vario_Elmarit_Aspherical.html


    heres a few more

    http://www.dpreview.com/news/0409/04092709olympuslenses.asp
     
  20. alfas

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    I've got the 14-50 panny, the 7-14mm, & the 40-150. those are all 4/3rds mount.

    the panny/leica 14-50 mounts on my e1's and gives OIS to that body now which I enjoy, great lens,

    the 7-14 in 4/3rds is an amazing lens and also available in m4/3rds mount saving size, weight and a bit of money.

    the 40-150 is also available in m4/3rds. the 4/3rds version is a bargain and great performer though.

    there is a list of m4/3rds mount lenses. http://www.four-thirds.org/en/microft/lens_chart.html
    is there any reason you are not pursuing those since you are a just building your kit?

    as for your focus being live, I'd opt for an on/off for that as it will eat your battery...
     

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