Tranny Conversion F1 to 6 speed Poll | FerrariChat

Tranny Conversion F1 to 6 speed Poll

Discussion in '360/430' started by DonJuan348, Mar 14, 2011.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. DonJuan348

    DonJuan348 F1 Rookie
    Owner

    Aug 5, 2008
    4,442
    Taxing Jersey
    With F1 to 6 speed conversion taking place . I began thinking how many people want to go from their F1 to a 6 speed . AND how wants to go 6 speed to F1.

    It would be interesting to see who wants to go to the other side.
     
  2. Camdon53

    Camdon53 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2006
    507
    Texas, USA
    Full Name:
    Jim
    The 360 F1 is like a woman with no legs -- once you have one, you'll never go back.
     
  3. FerrariDublin

    FerrariDublin F1 Rookie

    Jun 14, 2009
    3,454
    Dublin, Ireland
    Full Name:
    Greg
    I'm happy with my 6 speed manual - the car is 11 years old now with reasonably high mileage and I'm glad I don't have to worry about all that electronic / hydraulic stuff going south.

    I also enjoy the manual experience makes a nice change from the DD Auto-box.

    Horses for courses!
     
  4. vrsurgeon

    vrsurgeon F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 13, 2009
    16,544
    Charleston, SC
    Full Name:
    Curt
    I love my 6 speed manual. Didn't/Wouldn't want it any other way. *click click* goes the gate with each shift :)
     
  5. HH11

    HH11 F1 Rookie
    Rossa Subscribed

    Sep 4, 2010
    3,345
    What a great line! I love the F1 as well.
     
  6. DonJuan348

    DonJuan348 F1 Rookie
    Owner

    Aug 5, 2008
    4,442
    Taxing Jersey
    Dang, no one yet wants to change . So I wonder why CS didn't come with manual option ? Also, I wonder if any of the Scuderia owner would like a manual ?


    I'm on the converted side next car will be F1 ...
     
  7. E60 M5

    E60 M5 Moderator
    Moderator Owner

    Jan 2, 2006
    8,167
    Wash DC area
    Full Name:
    Robert
    #7 E60 M5, Mar 14, 2011
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2011

    Many reasons. I believe it was apparent were transmission technology was headed and they used that technology in the CS. It also gave the owners of the CS that F1 feeling and faster shift times. I believe there are very few that can "heel & toe" shift as fast as the F1 system on a CS.
     
  8. jamie furman

    jamie furman Karting

    Feb 20, 2011
    76
    Manassas Virginia
    Full Name:
    Jamie Furman
    Had 6 speeds my whole life and I have had enough of them, although 3 of my newer cars still have them if I had my choice on those it would only be DC F1 for me! Everyone always wants to tell me how a 6 speed is a real mans car and the sad part is most guys who are telling me that can't drive them, they just think they can!
     
  9. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 11, 2008
    106,228
    Vegas baby
    #9 TheMayor, Mar 14, 2011
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2011
    I was thinking about this the other day:

    Just WHERE are the 6 speed drivers of the future going to come from? Kids today are raised on autoboxes and Xboxes. Where are you going to get the training or understanding of "how cool it is"?

    Who is going to want to buy a Ferrari as THEIR FIRST MANUAL car? Do you really want to learn how to shift with one?

    I have a Mini Cooper 6 speed. Sometimes its fun, and somethings it's just a chore as I simply go up the gear, down the gear, let off the clutch, let on the clutch-- stuck in traffic on the freeway.

    There's a place for 6 speeds. It just happens to be before the year 1995.

    It reminds me of an old Jerry Seinfeld joke:

    "What is it with the Chinese and chopsticks? They've SEEN the FORK!"
     
  10. vrsurgeon

    vrsurgeon F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 13, 2009
    16,544
    Charleston, SC
    Full Name:
    Curt
    It's actually interesting that you mention this as I love technology.. but prefer to shift my own cars and the only place I might consider an F1 is for a track car..

    In Mexico the cars are mostly manual. (Surprised how al the cabs were at least) Perhaps its an american thing.. or relates to "higher end cars" being automanuals.. not sure..
     
  11. RobD

    RobD Formula 3

    Nov 10, 2003
    1,182
    USA
    I got my first experience operating a manual by riding dirt bikes as a kid (my favorite was my YZ-80). When it came time to get my driver's license, I already knew how to drive a stick. I drove my Dad's car up the street like I had been at it for years (which in essence I had).

    Kids today still ride dirt bikes, quads, etc. They read about the manual sports cars still offered today - Corvettes, Porsches, etc. Manual shifting isn't dead yet, but it would be a shame if it someday becomes a lost art. It's a rewarding skill that offers that satisfying tactile feeling of operating a mechanical thing. Of course, it's not for everybody...to each, their own.

    I do think modern paddle shifters are impressive and efficient. Ideally, one needs multiple cars, both manual and paddle shifters. An F50 and 458 would do nicely.
     
  12. Rojo

    Rojo Formula Junior

    Jul 17, 2009
    315
    Stillwater
    Full Name:
    Bob
    LMAO!!!! I love my legless woman!
     
  13. mousecatcher

    mousecatcher Formula 3

    Dec 18, 2007
    2,116
    san mateo, ca
    You might be missing the point. Downshift time (heel and toe) is irrelevant.
     
  14. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 11, 2008
    106,228
    Vegas baby
    Look at it this way.

    Let's say that all boxes until 15 years ago were auto's -- even Ferrari's.

    Then, someone said "hey, you can do this manually and it's a lot more engaging!".

    What would we say?

    Most likely --- "are you crazy? Who would want that???".

    Humans are creatures of habit. It takes time to get adjusted to new things, even if they're better. There are some people who still don't trust computers and the internet.

    Kids of tomorrow won't care at all. All they want is the latest and greatest -- just like they throw their video game consoles out every 3 years.
     
  15. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 19, 2008
    39,195
    Clarksville, Tennessee
    Full Name:
    Terry H Phillips
    First car I drove was a 1944 Jeep in 1962. No automatic. Have had a ton of manual transmission Ferraris, Porsches, and Corvettes since then. Plus time in 18 wheelers and other trucks. Needless to say, heel and toe and double clutching (one level up from heel and toe) are second nature, but....I love my 575M F1. It is great fun to drive and just another skill set to learn and practice.

    My father flew P-47s in WW-II. Took a lot of skill to take off, land, and fly formation with all that torque constantly fighting you. I have 2000+ hours of fighter time, all in turbine-engined aircraft, and did not miss the torque flying skills at all. Times change.

    Taz
    Terry Phillips
     
  16. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 11, 2008
    106,228
    Vegas baby
    Not to jump this thread but that's amazing. My hat's off to him.
     
  17. hardtop

    hardtop F1 World Champ

    Jan 31, 2002
    11,294
    Colorado
    Full Name:
    Dave
    It's amazing how often we hear this misconception. Paddles only cut time on upshifts. In any event, paying for instruction is much more cost effective than buying flappy paddles if you want to decrease lap times.

    Dave
     
  18. rmani

    rmani F1 Veteran
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Nov 1, 2003
    7,334
    NJ
    Full Name:
    RMani
    3 pedals for life. i've driven many f1 cars. Takes away too much of the fun for me.
     
  19. rmani

    rmani F1 Veteran
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Nov 1, 2003
    7,334
    NJ
    Full Name:
    RMani
    IF you sell your car dibs on your exhaust and test pipes! ;-)
     
  20. DonJuan348

    DonJuan348 F1 Rookie
    Owner

    Aug 5, 2008
    4,442
    Taxing Jersey
    #20 DonJuan348, Mar 15, 2011
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2011
    not yet ... and not any time soon. But as you, I once said manual for life but now give me the paddles anyday. i would be one of the few to convert mi car to F1.

    And when are you bring your new whip down by me?
     
  21. rmani

    rmani F1 Veteran
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Nov 1, 2003
    7,334
    NJ
    Full Name:
    RMani
    Sorry it's taken so long! Works been a killer I've been doing a lot of traveling again. LA in a week, possibly Russia a month later! We will definitely meet up though I'm dying to hear your car!
     

Share This Page