Vetroresina 308s

why bother picking it up,your on the reserve list.

 

I'm tagging along anyway.

 

No I can't unfortauntely due to other commitments, but I'm going to try and come along for a part drive on the first day although I now have a wheel bearing and rear brake issue on the 308 which I have to fix this weekend. Cheesed off to be honest as it's the one rally I promised myself last year I WOULD go on.

 

Shall do, keen to see how it looks. Have you found the clearance an issue on speed humps or driveways? That's the one thing that has put me off doing the same, especially since I fitted the euro spoiler.

 

I see #19369 is for sale again at classic bottle shop, for $125K this time. Did this actually get sold last time? It seems to have been on/off the market for over 2 years now.... I inspected it 18 months ago and certainly looked original but didn't get to see the books. I am told it was a private owner car until 2003, stored with Graypaul's (UK) for many years and exhibited at the Bridgenorth Motor Museum.

See http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/dealer/FERRARI/308/details.aspx?R=10260270&Model=308&State=All%20States&__Nne=20&Make=FERRARI&RegionID=&Region=All%20Regions&silo=1000&seot=1&__sid=12C2074B8B38&state_id=0&__N=4294966380%200%20834%20258%20287%20285%201216%201216%204294956748%20&__Ns=pCar_StatusSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Price_Decimal%7c0&distance=25&Cr=1&trecs=2&__Qpb=true

edit - and what's the stuff about "recently has had the cylinder heads converted for unleaded fuel". I didn't think that was relevant for these cars??

 

Don't think it ever sold

paint had fibreglass osmosis when I saw it and was on wrong wheels

 

Pity as i was about to make you reserve car number 18.

 

it's about about the same height as your car now, but being stiffer will have less "loose" travel, which is what usually seems to cause the bottoming.

 

Is it about, about the same or just about the same?

 

looks...it's actually the same, about, but different, about the height


smartarse. it's like looking in a mirror.

 

Yes wrong wheels but I didn't see any osmosis, in fact I've never seen osmosis on any glass 308's, only stress cracking from impacts. Osmosis as I understand it is more something that effects fibreglass boats that are immersed in seawater for long periods of time, and shows up as blisters. It usually only occurs where poor quality resin was used (happy to proven wrong, I'm no expert on boats!).

Given the quality of the fibreglass work on the original 308's I'd be surprised if Ferrari took any short cuts on the materials. My glass 308 has had a pretty touch life and lived in some pretty extreme places (e.g. Isle of Mann), yet despite all the cracks and repairs where water could get in I've seen no sign of osmosis (yet!)

 

They get stress cracks at certain points around the C pillars and the rear clip near the boot. I have also seen stress cracks in the front clip and cracks due to previous crash repairs.
I have never, ever seen one with "osmosis"; but really rough examples can show bubbling where the steel framework underneath is rusting away. This happens around the rear 1/4 windows when the seals age and let water in, and also the door skins where the internal window frames rust BADLY.

Overall the quality of the original fibreglass work is very good. The panels themselves are VERY thick and as a result, quite durable.

 

looked like several small bubbles to me, mostly over the front sides from memory

 

I had a look at the car today..the small bubbles were present on just about everynpanel with some webbing on the engine lid..The 246 GT they have is very optimisticly priced,,as are most of their cars come to think of it.

 

Both cars are on the reserve list for the GG and W.H.Lowe rally.

 

the small bubbles are contamination under the paint, not osmosis. Can be caused by very small residue from such things as silicone polish, or whatever they wiped the previous paint down with before the respray went on.

 

You're probably right Ian. From memory CTS told me (this is 12-14 months ago) that the 308 had never been resprayed, but I had my doubts as the paint looked far to good to be 30+ years old, even if it had been stored inside all of it's life.

I actually found out by accident this car had been in the hands of the same UK Ferrari resto company (Nick Cartwrights) as my car (#19285). When I mentioned this to CTS they said I was wrong, but I know it to be correct as Piccola Scuderia were previously advertising the car for $180K and I recognised the photos were taken at Cartwrights premises (infact I thought they were using photos of my car initially as they were almost identical!). I am not suggesting the history of the car isn't genuine, but a potential owner would be wise to research it's detailed history in the UK. If anyone wants further info then PM me.

 

I'm driving mine today! (all of 5km..but still)
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That's always a good thing, keeps em healthy!

Hey meant to tell you I went and had a look at yours at BSM the other day as you suggested, but of course it was up on the hoist at the time so couldn't see the gaps etc. But I did check out the suspension and it has inspired me to get on with my mine. I have a wheel bearing that is going on the left rear so good time to start the suspension resto while I'm at it. Just replaced all of the suspension on my 65 'stang in the past month so I feel qualified now to tackle a 308!

 

so it's a hovercraft ??!!

 

looks great,must have a sweet sound.

 

This picture (of 19877) is over in the vintage section in a thread started by Rob Lay.

I thought that the number 10 sounded well short of the true mark as this car is listed as about the 27th oldest on the AFR.

What's the correct number? (Apologies if the answer is buried somewhere in the 24 pages of this thread).

Regards

WM
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Australian RHD glass 308's had wet sump engines, vs UK RHD cars which had the more desirable dry sump. This was a quirk of our emission controls at the time. So the "1 of 10" they're quoting refers to 1 of 10 Australian spec cars, not total RHD 'glass production. I can't recall if 10 is the correct number or not.

The exact number have been posted here before, Carl888 seems to be the exspurt.

How many years has this car been sitting in that Las Vegas "museum"? Such a strange situation there. The cars with "for sale" on them are often not for sale and vice versa.

 

its on the reserve list like you.

 

what are you going to spam about when the Lowe rally is over?