Is the Land Cruiser the best in the world?

It does - tons of Audis in Alaska.

 

But, by Jeep's definition of Trail Rated, you could easily improve a LC to those specs (traction, ground clearance, maneuverability, articulation, water fording). A suspension change and tires (with or without lift) could handle the first four. Again, if that is your use and definition of "best".

 

They are way overpriced $$$$, some complaints on the goofy doors and rearward visibility.

Automatics from Toyota are terrible, go six speed only, maybe get a used one??

#1 with Terrarists worldwide!!!
But they blow them up.........

 

This is the biggest reason by far.

 

Why does technically being "trail rated" matter? Are you going to be using it in some form of competition or recreation where you need it to have a particular certification? Or are the bragging rights of owning a "trail rated" vehicle important?

Edit: Nevermind, I've just seen the other thread...

Other Cars > General Automotive Discussion > "X-Terra not trail rated?"​

All the best,
Andrew.

 

Andrew, see this reply in his last BS SUV thread:

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=140383212&postcount=56

 

Thanks JR. Actually, seeing that post was when it dawned on me I'd been suckered.

And yes, I do want my 2 minutes back.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

I recently realized how much you suck. Dammit.

 

I sold Jeeps from 1995-2004. I love most Jeeps. "Trail Rated" is a marketing term from Jeep therefore it can only be used by Jeep on a Jeep. The exact definition is "the vehicle must be able to traverse the Rubicon Trail in stock form with minimal body damage and minimal assistance." At the time they came up with Trail Rated I was also told by our Jeep factory rep that all future Jeep vehicles would be Trail Rated. Of course this same guy also said the Wrangler would never be a 2wd. Now Jeep has the Compass, Patriot (I think you can get a 4wd Trail Rated) 2wd Wranglers and 2wd Grand Cherokees that aren't Trail Rated. So it is true that only Jeeps are Trail Rated but it is only because of copywrite. As far as Land Cruisers go the ones with inline 6's are really cool but just like all newer Toyota products the last two generations are a bit soft. Not to say they aren't good off road (there is a lot of trick 4wd stuff under it) but there are probably better options. Weight and on road tuning of the suspension don't help.

 

I warned 'ya....

 

My Defender (and I am pretty sure also a Toyota LC) could happily climb its front wheels on my wife's trail rated Liberty's hood and make a good mess of it.

But it is not trail rated! So I'll take it back to LR.

 

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I'll take my Range Rover HSE over any other SUV. As for reliability, I've had it for seven years next month and have never had a problem. I'm holding out for a diesel before I let go of it. (Come on, RR....give us a turbo diesel with about 800 torques!!)

 

My Oldsmobile is trail rated. It even says so in my profile.

 

Getting back to Husker's original question/statement/support re: current Landcruiser, I offer this observation:

A small part of our business involve the sale of complete brake systems to armored vehicle builders. Right now the LC system is our #1 seller, primarily to vehicle builders in Europe who turn around and sell the completed vehicles throughout the Middle East and Asia.

 

Wasted keystrokes, Greg.

 

Awesome. My feet aren't trail rated, but I'm looking to the government for help. Otherwise, I might have to take them back to the "dealership". Trouble is, they might not fit in there anymore.....

 

Buying the extended warranty helps. It's like carrying an umbrella to make sure it won't rain....

 

Another Huskerism!
My American sedan has gone nearly 150k with hardly any problems. The 'mericans build great cars too.

 

don't feed the troll, son.

 

Just trying to build the ol' post count.