458 Italia vs. Aventador LP700

Ferrari does this too. Remember the statements that the California was already sold out for two years when it was introduced? It's a marketing gimmick. But it's a double edge sword as it can keep some buyers from inquiring.

 

and the fact you cannot write its name correctly give us a good idea of what you know about lambos

 

And you might not lose an arm and a leg driving off the lot. LOL

 

And how would you have a warranty on a twin turbo r8?

 

You can get a fully warrantied supercharged R8 through Stasis at many Audi dealers. I realize this is not what you asked-but close.

 

Oh I know about the Stasis V10 but I certainly don't know of any TT setup with that warranty.

 

Heffner provides a 12 month/12,000mi warranty on their TT R8. Also, GMG is in late stage development of their TT R8.

 

Just because the R8 is TT and modified does not mean the car does not have a warranty. The manufacturer has to prove that the component added caused the failure should something in the car fail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act

The Moss Warranty Act protects the consumer who wants to modify his/her car.

The car is as raw as you can get. The 631BHP, and retuned SMG really slams you back into the seat on every shift. It's about as violent a shift at full throttle as I have felt. Even more than the LP640. It's a great daily driver, this last year was quite fun withal the snow we had here in the NE LOL.

 

The smart move is too wait a few years and buy the lambo for bargin basement prices...

 

the 458...light ...nimble ...technical....the lambo is a lambo.."which isnt a bad thing...its just a different thing"

 

The guys from AutoCar, who have tested both the 458 Italia and two days ago the Aventador, say that the Aventador is one beast of a machine, yet it isn't as refined and as quick as a 458 Italia. Take a look at the review on YouTube.

Must say that they tested the Aventador on a soaking wet track.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RCfgkhUSeA[/ame]

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I think the looks of this car are excellent on the exterior. The interior to me is just not "over the top Lambo" to me. The steering wheel and the flip up cover for the start button are just corny, as are the TFT rev counter (someone's been looking at the Lexus).

The sound is great but the engine compartment looks like a kit car. The cross frames may make perfect engineering sense but to most it looks like an afterthought.

The Egear box is the biggest disappointment. For all the incredible technology and new stuff in it, to use a dated design gearbox seems like such a waste.

For a car made of CF and Aluminum, it seems a bit disappointing that it weighs the same as a BMW 3 series. That to me was the most shocking.

Anyone who buys this car is going to have great fun. But, it isn't perfect.

 

The gearbox seems like it was hyped up, everything I read about it prior to the car being shown was praising how quick it would be etc. Any figures on shift times?

Generally new outlandish cars grow on me, but it has some "kitcar" lines/qualities in it. Early days though I know I will change my opinion months down the track.

In the interest of not sounding like a hater I will say that it is very futuristic looking and typical Lamborghini

 

I think he was referring to gear shifting when he made that comparison. Supposedly gear shifts are 50ms. From what I've heard and read about, Lamborghini wasn't wanting to go with the dual clutch system to save weight. So I guess, sacrificing seamless shifting in the name of weight savings. The ultra quick and smooth gear shifts appeals to many but there are still those who want the raw jolt of the gear shift which gives the driver more of the driving experience since it doesn't seem like the car is just doing everything by itself.

 

Always wait a year or 2 for Lambo's prices to tumble like a rock in a pond to buy them. Never buy them brand new.

 

Not to intervene, but I thought the Aventador's base price was around $380,000. I know it seems cheap for what you're getting but that's what I have read.

Jared

 

One thing everyone seems to be forgetting is that carbon is not just about the weight: the stiffness of the new tub increased by 150%. There is no aluminum technology that can match it. And stiffness affects a lot of things from safety to suspension precisions and hence feel. By the way, 458 is definitely NOT lighter than 430, except in the dreamworld of Ferrari press releases.

 

Does Macca get to use the carbon tub in the GT3 car?

 

Yes.

 

That will be the ultimate showcase of Al vs C