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  1. ColoradoTiger

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    #1 ColoradoTiger, Apr 30, 2011
    what's feeling proud of myself for fixing my car so I took it for a spin. 30 miles or so into the drive, I hear a crunching sound ad if I ran over a beer can. I pulled over and the engine cut off. I turned the key and the car started but the engine is making a horrible sound as if there is a wrench in the engine or the belts or something and there is a ticking sound coming from the fuse box (it seems).
    All I did was change out the crank sensor. I doubt I had anything to do with this. Oh well. Does anyone have any idea what could.have broken loose?
     
  2. thecarreaper

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    #2 thecarreaper, Apr 30, 2011
    No idea, but I wish you luck.

    DO NOT start it again until you can rule out some of the more expensive stuff.

    fingers crossed for you.
     
  3. i-velocita

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    #3 i-velocita, Apr 30, 2011
    Good luck Mark. Not sure where you are stranded but let me know if I can lend a hand. Jim
     
  4. ColoradoTiger

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    #4 ColoradoTiger, Apr 30, 2011
    I'm unloading my car at Dave Helms' shop right now. I hope he can find time to look at it next week.
     
  5. Fave

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    #5 Fave, Apr 30, 2011
    I have no idea either but I'm curious did you lose power to the wheels before the engine cut out?
     
  6. ColoradoTiger

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    #6 ColoradoTiger, Apr 30, 2011
    Not really. Just lady a strange sound when I reed it.
     
  7. Fave

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    #7 Fave, Apr 30, 2011
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    Pm sent
     
  8. thecarreaper

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    #8 thecarreaper, Apr 30, 2011
    Well its in great hands, wish you the best.
     
  9. branko

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    #9 branko, May 3, 2011
    Let us know what he finds.
     
  10. ColoradoTiger

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    #10 ColoradoTiger, May 3, 2011
    Dropped a valve. Engine is toast. Just put a $15,000 paint job on it too; not to mention the euro conversion.
    Anyone got an extra engine laying around?
     
  11. thecarreaper

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    #11 thecarreaper, May 3, 2011
    So sorry to hear, Did they say if it was an exhaust valve ( sodium filled) or intake valve?

    Is the whole engine really a write off? (not rebuild-able)
    Can you get a QV engine instead and "upgrade" a bit? 328 3.2 L perhpas?

    Good luck to you.

    :(
     
  12. i-velocita

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    #12 i-velocita, May 3, 2011
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    Too bad Mark. Hopefully piston is ok and you just need a head redone.
     
  13. f1nxlife

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    #13 f1nxlife, May 3, 2011
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    T RUTLANDS HAD A 328 ENGINE A WHILE BACK ON THEIR EBAY STORE,,,I THINK THE PRICE WAS 12K (what a joke ..12k for a used motor !!)...BUT IM SURE THATS NOT FIRM,,,,GOOD LUCK, ps..,,i was wondering if you could tell me what your mechanic said was the cause of the valve breaking...thx..Brett
     
  14. Badman

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    #14 Badman, May 3, 2011
    Well, if it's any consolation, you're not the first to have this happen! My engine jumped a belt on the drive home from my $12K paint job and entirely laid waste to my front bank. A year and a half later, and more spend on the engine rebuild than I spent to purchase the car, and it's almost back on the road again.
     
  15. airdelroy

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    #15 airdelroy, May 3, 2011
    I thought sodium filled valves were limited to carb cars.

    Aaron
     
  16. ColoradoTiger

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    #16 ColoradoTiger, May 3, 2011
    Sodium valve. Not sure what I'm going to do next. I'm checking my options. Ideally, I'll get a 328 engine in there with a lot more power. Not sure how much money things are going to cost. (I forgot to mention that I just spent $11k on the engine 1 week before I had it re-painted) When it's all said and done, I could have had a nice 355. Not sure I would want one though.
    Which would you rather have for $65k?
    350 hp euro 308 (souped up 328 engine) with a flawless paint job
    375 hp 355?
    I'm in too deep now. Gotta go with the 308.
     
  17. DWPC

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    #17 DWPC, May 3, 2011
    Tough luck. How recent is the engine work? Did it include head work? Can you be sure the valve that failed vs. a valve keeper not installed correctly?
     
  18. Badman

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    #18 Badman, May 3, 2011
    More than you expect.

    That was exactly my attitude too.
     
  19. ColoradoTiger

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    #19 ColoradoTiger, May 3, 2011
    Timeline:

    Gave the car to Dave Helms last October
    Dave had the car for a couple weeks or so doing a major service, installing new ignition computers, new cap and rotor, new coolant hoses throughout the engnie etc.

    One week later:
    Woman with no insurance tapped me in the front end

    I decide to go euro since the grill/spoiler is damaged and while I'm at it, let's paint the whole car black.

    5-1/2 months later, I get the car back.

    Two days later, the crank sensor goes out.

    I spend a week and a half changing the gear oil and crank sensor (I'm a ****ty mechanic). Car works great again.

    Next day I drop a valve.

    I still have a good life (Great job, great friends, nice home, Girlfriend weighs less than 120#, etc.) Can't complain too much.
    Mark.
     
  20. tatcat

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    #20 tatcat, May 3, 2011
    you're a better man than i. they'd find me hanging in the garage.
     
  21. lostbowl

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    #21 lostbowl, May 3, 2011
    It's our greatest fear! Keep the faith. regards, Lost
     
  22. Jdubbya

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    #22 Jdubbya, May 3, 2011
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    I wouldn't go that far, but the car might spontaneously combust one night if it were me.

    Of course I'm into mine almost as deep and no work done "inside" the motor yet.
     
  23. marcro

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    #23 marcro, May 3, 2011
    Hi Mark, sorry to hear about this. I was looking forward to seeing it with the wheels I sold you. If I hear of anything up here in the GTA with respect to an engine I will PM you.
     
  24. tempest411

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    #24 tempest411, May 4, 2011
    Jeeze, reading of this failure (again) has me feeling squeamish and I haven't even bought one of these cars yet!!!

    I think once I finally find the one I want, I'm going to insist that after insuring that the engine is in good order, it will not be run again until I've pulled it and gone through every mm of it-and gotten rid of the sodium filled valves, which I will ceremoniously destroy in an active volcano.
     
  25. i-velocita

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    #25 i-velocita, May 4, 2011
    Mark, why is the engine toast if all you did is drop one valve?
     
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