2011 FORMULA 1 DHL TURKISH GRAND PRIX QUALIFYING *** SPOILERS ***

Woo-hoo Alonso!! P5 - I knew he could do it!! He's looked strong all weekend! That 6/10 he brings showed up. Just Like in testing!
I'm thinking about buying a hat, shirt or maybe I'll break down and get a replica helmet! Any good sources?
Forza Fernando!!! Ole!
The podium is almost in sight!

 

Except that the current slicks have more grip than the grooved tires of the past.

 

Really? I thought I just heard Jensen crying for the return of the old tires and big V10 motors. Wouldn't be because they were worse

 

There could be a number of reasons for why he made that comment. The old tires definitely didn't drop off the performance cliff like these do.

But I'd be really surprised if the grooved tires had more grip than these, particularly the super soft ones.

 

Any word on whether MS will get a penalty? By when have the stewards made their decision?

Although I don't think he'll get a penalty.

 

What would the penalty be for? Sorry, I must have missed his infraction!

 

Blocked Hami in Q1.

http://www.motorsport-aktuell.com/automobil/istanbul-pole-geht-an-vettel-3727802.html
Kleine Randnotiz: In Q1 stand er einmal Hamilton im Weg, was noch ein Nachspiel haben könnte.

 

He did a 26.0 earlier today. He had pace, that's why I'm thinking it might have been an issue. Again.

 

This season is probably a write off for the F cars. The problem is they have to jump over not only Red Bull but McLaren and at times Renault. Then, there continues this big gap between Alonso and Massa.

It's going to be difficult to improve that much while others are also improving. And, if there is a fight between McLaren and Red Bull forming, both of those teams will go all out to get the most out of the cars

 

1 Ger Sebastian Vettel 1 Red Bull-Renault 1:25.049
2 Aus Mark Webber 2 Red Bull-Renault 1:25.454
3 Ger Nico Rosberg 8 Mercedes GP 1:25.574
4 GB Lewis Hamilton 3 McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.595
5 Spa Fernando Alonso 5 Ferrari 1:25.851
6 GB Jenson Button 4 McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.982
7 Rus Vitaly Petrov 10 Renault 1:26.296
8 Ger Michael Schumacher 7 Mercedes GP 1:26.646
9 Ger Nick Heidfeld 9 Renault 1:26.659
10 Brz Felipe Massa 6 Ferrari 1:26.395
11 Brz Rubens Barrichello 11 Williams-Cosworth 1:26.764
12 Ger Adrian Sutil 14 Force India-Mercedes 1:27.027
13 GB Paul Di Resta 15 Force India-Mercedes 1:27.145
14 Ven Pastor Maldonado 12 Williams-Cosworth 1:27.236
15 Mex Sergio Perez 17 Sauber 1:27.244
16 Swi Sebastien Buemi 18 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:27.255
17 Spa Jaime Alguersuari 19 Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:27.572
18 Fin Heikki Kovalainen 20 Lotus-Renault 1:28.780
19 Ita Jarno Trulli 21 Lotus-Renault 1:29.673
20 Ita Vitantonio Liuzzi 23 Hispania-Cosworth 1:30.692
21 Ger Timo Glock 24 Virgin-Cosworth 1:30.813
22 Ind Narain Karthikeyan 22 Hispania-Cosworth 1:31.564
23 Jpn Kamui Kobayashi 16 Sauber No time
24 Bel Jerome d'Ambrosio 25 Virgin-Cosworth 1:30.445

 

You know it's bad when ESPN has an entire article dedicated to pointing out that 5th is Alonso's best qualifying result yet...

I have a feeling we're just going to have to grit our teeth through the rest of the season...

 

Well yes he did, however I don't think it effected Hamilton, but thats not the point, since when have the FIA/stewards started to be consistant, surely they can't be using some discretion and common sense now.

 

+1

The team needs a lot of things at this point: A new car, some new (non Italian) designers, a non Italian team manager, a new #2 driver. And probably to make that happen: LdM outta there

With luck the F150 Italia will win a race this year, but I wouldn't bet on it. It might go down in history as worse than the 2009 car.

 

All is not lost, last year showed that.

 

I think your right, cleaning out the Ferrari camp, cleaned out the good.

 

I don't want to toss the baby out with the water, so change should be evolutionary rather than revolutionary. But it needs to start at the top, which means LdM needs to realize that the best teams in the world are made from the best people in the world and not from who is available in Italy.

 

I suppose when rethinking that, last year Mclaren and co didn't go forwards but remained static, whereas Ferrari made some good leaps forward.

 

Agreed 100%

 

Lets just pray for rain....This RedBull weekends are getting boring..

 

Do you spot the problem with this post?

 

+1

Nothing seems to be working for the F-Cars. The team needs fundamental changes from the top down, but I do not think the drivers need changing. Ferrari, in my opinion, needs an "Adrian Newey" and a strong leader at the helm who has a history of winning; someone that's been there before. Where Ferrari will finds these peoople, who knows. They use to have the right people but got rid of them. I think that fact alone is going to make it very difficult to build a team from the ground up.

Mark

 

When simple denial fails large quantities of distilled and fermented liquids have been know to help.

 

The only reprimand which came of was Di Resta being "talked to" by the stewards for not stopping at the weighbridge. The Schu thing in Q1 was a non-issue.


Ferrari has used all their soft tires at least once. They are going to have a tough race tomorrow.

 

Massa's posted time is his q2 time on softs. he did't run in q3.

 

Are you sure about that?

As noted, Phil didn't run in Q3, so hopefully he's got a set stashed?

Cheers,
Ian