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US GP in Austin Discussion and Speculation...

Discussion in 'F1' started by Simon^2, Jul 5, 2010.

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Now that Austin is on the official FIA calendar, will the race really happen?

  1. Yes, it will happen.

  2. No, no way for construction to finish.

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  1. iamthesimpleone

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    before my time
     
  2. VIZSLA

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    So was Shakespeare. No excuse.
    ;)
     
  3. Simon^2

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    Bernie's half-hearted endorsement of the track at today's Turkish GP was far from reassuring.
     
  4. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
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    But they've hired a doc and a SC driver. ALL'S GOOD!
     
  5. Simon^2

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    Yeah I caught that. Since they are not actually building the track, the only way they can continue the charade is to keep creating free press releases.

    After the USF1 debacle, I am honestly surprised that Speed is not being more "investigative".

    To me a sure sign that this is a 100% farce is Hobbs complete silence on the matter.
     
  6. VIZSLA

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    Have you mistaken SPEED for a news organization with a sense of responsible journalism?
    They're a rah rah hype machine selling boner pills and trinkets..
     
  7. tifosi12

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    I know. It is driving me mad to listen to these goofs raraing something that is obviously in disarray. Then again even the great Zampano Bernie confirmed that all is well.

    Why is nobody speaking up? Isn't there a single journo with an inquisitive bone in his body to do a "60 minutes" story on this?
     
  8. Simon^2

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    You would think at least 1 of the real F1 mags / journo's would do a serious piece on the status / progress of the f1 site and compare it to other recent tracks, both completed and failed.
     
  9. tifosi12

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    Exactly.

    As I said earlier, this all reminds me of the USF1 scam: While that was happening I emailed the F1 editor of a serious F1 magazine (whom I know personally). I laid out to him the reasons for why I believed USF1 was never going to happen, yet he wouldn't want to touch the story with a 6 foot stick. He explained to me that he personally has been sued for writing stories, which while turning out to be true, he couldn't proove at the time of the writing. So going out on a hunch is not what these guys are doing (anymore). Pitty.
     
  10. iamthesimpleone

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    come on....spoiler alert.....;)
     
  11. iamthesimpleone

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    More than a hunch....documents signed by Tavo, with a schedule that puts them behind......who knows, maybe an article like that would make them more open to discussing specifics...
     
  12. SRT Mike

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    F1 has shown itself to be very nepotistic and closed. I have heard many stories of journalists being denied press passes when they don't toe the company line. We all know the US GP is at best very far behind schedule, and at worst a hail-Mary longs hot that never had a serious chance... but F1 is still saying it's perfectly on schedule and everything is OK.

    So, a journalist that questioned it would be ostracized. I think it's most likely there are no journalists who want to risk their relationship with Formula One to do the story.
     
  13. VIZSLA

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    There's very little money in proclaiming that the emperor has no clothes.
    No one in the business wants to needlessly alienate someone they might need later.
    The fact that its does we, the fans, a dis-service doesn't enter into the equation.
     
  14. tifosi12

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    #1289 tifosi12, May 8, 2011
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    Agreed on that.

    I totally disagree. Isn't that exactly what good journalists do? The Moly Shaefers, Katie Courics and Steven Crofts of this world?

    So why isn't a journo who doesn't normally report on F1 blow the whistle on this?

    Or why aren't the manufacturers not speaking out? They have the biggest interest in a return to the US.

    PS: Wasn't it funny when Bernie said all is perfectly fine with the USGP in the same interview in which he stressed that he doesn't lie?
     
  15. Etcetera

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    Did you really put Katie Couric in the same sentence as Morley Safer? :eek:
     
  16. tifosi12

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    Granted she is not quite 60 Minutes calibre but she was the one who dismantled Palin for all the world to see.

    <this post is not meant to be discussed here as it is political>
     
  17. VIZSLA

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    What does SPEED have to do with journalism? No joke, they're in the rah-rah business of flogging consumer goods not a search for the truth.

    Yes Bernie is always fun to watch as long as he doesn't have designs on your wallet :D
     
  18. Etcetera

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    Palin painfully self-destructed, and Couric was merely an innocent bystander. Hard hitting journalism doesn't include questions like, "what magazines do you read?"

    <This isn't really a political statement, just an observation borne of fact.>
     
  19. tifosi12

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    #1294 tifosi12, May 8, 2011
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    You have a point there.

    Ok, replace Couric with Walters (from 30 years ago that is). :)

    ROFL

    Pardon me for giving them more credit. Somehow I feel they wouldn't appreciate your characterization, truthful as it may be.
     
  20. VIZSLA

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    Motor oil and boner pills not Pulitzers and Peabodys ;)
     
  21. tifosi12

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    Did you notice how the boner pills only are advertising in the "overnight" races?

    The morning crowd is more interested in a career as bike mechanics...
     
  22. VIZSLA

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    There's a joke in there somewhere ;)
     
  23. iamthesimpleone

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    i could care less about the commercials, just don't air them in the last 15 laps of the race :(
     
  24. BartonWorkman

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    Interesting reading.

    Agreed, journalisim is a lost art in the day of corporate
    overlords pulling the strings. Just as in D.C., the heirarchy
    of credentialed journalists with access is limited to those
    whom don't rock the boat.

    So, don't look for a credentialed F-1 insider to write a
    provocative expose poking holes in the Austin USGP
    business plan. At least, not any time soon.

    Rather, this would have to come from an author attached
    to a media outlet with nothing to lose regarding access
    or worry about being blackballed.

    Lots of young, creative minds in the Austin area.

    BHW
     
  25. DF1

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    The local Austin paper would be a good start. Tax payer money being involved potentially etc. Too bad they are not delving into this. It is a large local story to put it mildly.
     

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