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Are you satisfied with the current form of racing?

Discussion in 'F1' started by Wolfgang5150, May 8, 2011.

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  1. VIZSLA

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    Well you cleaned that one up nicely ;)
     
  2. wlanast

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    I think it clearly raises issues as to the enjoyment of F1 today.

    I have to think the engine durability issue is directly related to sponsors wanting to see their cars circulating the track as long as possible for that much more exposure. Same with the kitty liter issue. As you said, almost the only retirements now are a result of accident damage.

    I do think retirements are a mixed bag. Who wants to see 6 cars running at the end of the race on one hand, and a complete field circulating in procession isn't any better. Don't have an answer for that one.

    And speaking from very recent (Turkey) first hand experience, the pits stop frequency is a wildcard like rain. It is less about racing even than rain, rain which can at least bring out driving performances. But pit mistakes are not racing incidents that affect outcomes, it is more like a roll of the dice at Vegas than skill. Driver skill and engineering innovation are the biggest elements in F1 for me.

    I must say that these F1 '11 cars sound brilliant in person. I don't know how the proposed 4 cyl. regs will affect that, but to reduce/eliminate the sound in favor of being green would ruin it for me.

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  3. tifosi12

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    I prefer the terms "eccentric" or "passionate".
     
  4. VIZSLA

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    So you assume Steve meant you're not your.
    Hmmm :)
     
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    #55 tifosi12, May 9, 2011
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  6. VIZSLA

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    He did write "your".

    Reminds me of what the man who failed his Rorschach test said to his shrink.
    "But Doc, they're YOUR dirty pictures." :D
     
  7. Aircon

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    lol
     
  8. tifosi12

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    Remember the US astronauts in the early sixties doing the Rorschach tests? Wally Schirra's responses to what do you see on this picture was "breasts" pretty much every time.
     
  9. VIZSLA

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    Hadn't heard that. Apparently that was the correct answer though ;)
     
  10. tifosi12

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    BTW: My mother came from Rorschach. There is actually a place named like that.
    :)

    <again apologies for taking a great thread totally off track>
     
  11. VIZSLA

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    And how does that make you feel?
     
  12. tifosi12

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    It might explain some of that passion/eccentricity.
     
  13. VIZSLA

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    Would you care to elaborate?
     
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    #64 tifosi12, May 9, 2011
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    While your invitation is tempting, I don't want to further hijack this thread. Let's just say that the pic in post #25 is just the tip of the iceberg. Then again this is a forum dedicated to people with strange priorities (as my wife would call Ferraristi), so I'm not such an exception in these circles...
     
  15. VIZSLA

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    Hmm (strokes goatee and writes note on pad)

    ;)
     
  16. Remy Zero

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    Well, i think the 2011's racing is one of the best since maybe 2000. Plenty of overtaking, plenty of pitstops.

    However, i don't like the controlled area of F1. I mean, things like how dictating what type of tyres must be used during races. I also don't like as Andreas mentioned, that is, making gearboxes and engines lasting the whole season. Back in 1998, Mika Hakkinen used 200 engines to beat MS. Now, it's just 4-5 engines this season? Thats crazy.

    I also want the drivers to push from the start till the end, not 'managing' things.
     
  17. VIZSLA

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    Post-Turkey there is already talk of too much passing believe it or not.
     
  18. Remy Zero

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    I think China had more overtaking, to be honest. I still think the DRS rule needs to be fined tuned a little.

    The next race is Spain, isn't it. It's one of the most difficult track to overtake on, lets see how it fares this year.
     
  19. VIZSLA

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    According to the piece on Yahoo UK Sports Turkey had more passing than any race so far.
    It had some interesting comments from drivers and team managers as well. The prevailing opinion was that most of the over taking had to do with unequal tire wear than anything else.
     
  20. Remy Zero

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    You're right. Probably turn 8 is a massive factor as well.
     
  21. VIZSLA

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    It was mentioned in relation to the DRS in particular.
    They claimed that cars on similar tire rotations had a lot more difficulty passing one another.
     

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