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More moaning from Boobens...

Discussion in 'F1' started by TifosiUSA, May 10, 2011.

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  1. TifosiUSA

    TifosiUSA F1 Veteran

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  2. VIZSLA

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    I read similar elsewhere today.
    Given the amount of marbles this year Monaco may be a bit of a horror show.
     
  3. TifosiUSA

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    I'm glad they're letting them use it, the drivers will have to adapt accordingly and it will reward the bravest/best ones. If people crash they crash, it's refreshing to have a potentially dangerous thing like DRS left in at a man's circuit like Monaco. F1 needs more thinking like this, the FIA themselves said there's no reason to justifiably ban it so why step in?

    If Barrichello can't handle it he can hang up the helmet, it's that simple.
     
  4. VIZSLA

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    I hope you're right.
    I was wondering about marbles at Monaco before I read his comments. Depending on the compounds used the low(er) speeds there may reduce the marbling and make his concern moot.
     
  5. Remy Zero

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    Rubens grumbles and grumbles...it seems thats the only thing he knows.

    It's a pity, because, i think if he had the patience to stay on post 2005, he could have fried Kimi and be the 2007 WDC. Heck, given how competitive the F2008 was, he could have been WDC that year as well.

    But no, he had no patience, moan moan, and look where he is now.
     
  6. Etcetera

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    Half the fun of Monaco is seeing who will exit the tunnel backwards at 160 MPH and five feet in the air.
     
  7. TifosiUSA

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    I don't remember, did he leave Ferrari on his own accord or was he fired?
     
  8. Etcetera

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    He left on his own.
     
  9. Fast_ian

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    Paraphrasing Dave Viz; "bashing Rubens is like hitting your little sister - No matter how annoying she is, it's just wrong!....." :)

    Something I read says he was speaking as the chairman of the GPDA - ie, other drivers have voiced the same concerns, and he's simply the mouthpiece..... Now getting the drivers to agree on *anything* (across the board) has proven more or less impossible over the years.

    Having said that, "let 'em race" - don't like it? Don't drive, there's plenty of other guys who would relish the chance. Hopefully no one gets hurt.

    Cheers,
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  10. VIZSLA

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    I hesitate to second guess any active driver and give some respect to his longevity but we'll have to wait and see. I do find it interesting that he (they?) are broaching the subject this far in advance. Sounds like they really want the FIA to look into it.

    Thanks for the quote;)
     
  11. Tifosi15

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    Boobens has been in a vastly superior car twice now (the Ferrari and Brawn) and each time he was demolished by his teammate, some people are just not WDC material
     
  12. VIZSLA

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    Not necessarily relevant to the question at hand.
     
  13. Tifosi15

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    I was replying to Remy, in which case it is relevant
     
  14. VIZSLA

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    Point taken.
     
  15. Remy Zero

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    Thing is, I will never forget how much he contributed to the Scuderia's greatest era. Like it or not, he was part of the Todt-Brawn-MS-Bryne team. He was part of their 2000-2004 success.

    But like MS often said : Rubens always complain no matter what.
     
  16. Fast_ian

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    I believe the GPDA asked Charlie, and Charlie asked the teams, who said running DRS is fine - Apparently, some of the teams even said it would cost big bucks to do a non-DRS wing! (Not quite sure why - Just disable the sucker!).

    They'll figure it out - They always do!...... As for the marbles, it seems to me they're dealing with that pretty well..... I may be remembering with rose tinted specs, but I'm sure I saw bigger piles of clagg at race end "back in the day".....

    Cheers,
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    From Autosport;

     
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    Actually, I agree with him. Monaco is a very technical circuit which is generally a parade once the qualifying order is set (i.e. Vettel is going for win #5 on the season). It's not a circuit that's generally conducive to overtaking, yet by allowing DRS, you can best believe the likes of Kobayashi, Petrov and Hamilton will be pushing the envelope. Actually, I'm certain it will level the playing field for many midfielders and there will be quite a few dust ups, especially against vets like Rubens and Schu.

    Let me clarify that I agree there will be a lot of incidents due to DRS. I hope there are no serious ones, but you've gotta think that passing speed doesn't make these guys all of a sudden wreckless freeway racers.

    In conclusion, it's time for Rubens to retire. Like me and many others, he's discovered that he's not invincible. Race car drivers should not spend a lot of time thinking about crashing.
     
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    I think that tunnel is the problem vs the marbles. Only the bravest of souls would try to pass on the outside on that narrow circuit.

    DRS will most likely eliminate the parade we're accustomed to watching.
     
  20. VIZSLA

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    Tell that to Jackie Stewart.
     
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    There is always the exception to the rule. JS has always been the most amazing driver to me in that he was obsessed with safety yet was a great champion. Normally you have to ignore risk to be the best, but he clearly defied that.

    That said, Rubens is no Jackie Stewart (note: I like Rubens though)
     

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