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348 speedo problems

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  1. pnicholasen

    pnicholasen Formula 3

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    I can't find this problem on any of the speedo threads on this site, wonder if anyone has any ideas: Speedo works perfect, until you turn on the headlights/instrument lights..then dead speedo. Switch the lights off.. back to normal. I checked all those little light bulbs behind the instrument cluster, and cleaned all the connectors. No change.
    Any ideas would be appreciated.
     
  2. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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  3. tcannon

    tcannon Formula 3

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    What kind of photoshop crap are you pulling on us? You know you never get her above 100! The thing that tipped me off is that you are pegged on the speedo but still have 3000 rpm to go to redline. So in this case you should be able to hit around 380 right? :D
     
  4. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    What you talking about Willis? :eek::eek:

    Was a little quicker than that yesterday my friend. ;);)

    Yes, thats right. The new 7 speed 458 DCT I fitted last week is amazing! :D:D

    Something like that, yeah. ;);)
     
  5. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

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    LOL....WTF PAP???
     
  6. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Full noise baby!! Full noise!! :D:D:D:D
     
  7. Miltonian

    Miltonian F1 Veteran

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    You may have a ground problem. Of course the 348 speedometer is electrically operated, there is no drive cable from the transmission. There is a "common ground" for ground wires that can be accessed from behind the left outer dash vent. I'd suggest checking there to see if any of the connectors are loose or dirty.

    Good luck.
     
  8. pnicholasen

    pnicholasen Formula 3

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    Figured out the problem, so if any of you ever get this yourselves, here's the answer: On the back of the speedoeter there is a kind of printed circuit board on flexable plastic. The plug from the car wiring harness connects to one end, the other goes through a slot in the speedo and plugs into a fitting inside. On it's way there it also brings power to the 3 instrument lights on the back of the speedo. I removed the plastic circuit board and made all the connections with real wire instead. Fairly easy to do as the ciruits themselves are obvious when you look at the plastic piece. Problem solved. There must have been some shorting between the various circuits in the plastic piece, although not visable just by looking at it
     
  9. flyguyskt

    flyguyskt Formula Junior

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    test it with an ohm meter?
     
  10. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Thanks for the update.
     
  11. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Nice find! Can you see any obvious burn marks or breaks in the printed circuit strip?
     
  12. pnicholasen

    pnicholasen Formula 3

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    No I didn't because my multimeter died. But it was clear the second that voltage went to the instrument lights, the speedo would drop to nothing. I could run with the headlights on with the instrument rheostat turned all the way down and the speedo was fine, but turn on any juice to the instrument lights and zippo. The printed circuit on the flexable plastic sheet seems a little iffy engineering-wise, but sounds like I'm the only one who's had this problem. Hopefuly everyone else's will continue to function properly
     
  13. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Well one thing is for sure, if it happens to anyone else your post will help them diagnose it.
     
  14. Night life

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    +1 good job tracking it down and reporting on it, many people do not report back when problem solved. Although your problem certainly was the first of it's kind, so congratulations on that :) your famous :D
     
  15. pnicholasen

    pnicholasen Formula 3

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    Anything I can do to help the brotherhood. I wouldn't have bought a Ferrari without this site and my348.com and both have already saved me hours of diagnostic time and a bundle of cash. Now, if someone doing a major engine-out service on their 348 woud video the process and put it on Youtube, life would be perfect.
     

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