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  1. Ferraripilot

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    #1 Ferraripilot, May 20, 2011
    A LOT of waves over this exhaust stuff and the EBD. Whiting has left the ball in the court of the teams to decide whether or not they will contest the running of the EBD by that of the larger teams. If a smaller team protests, the stewards will then decide if the car is legal or not, and according to Whiting it will most likely be viewed as illegal......

    Whiting essentially stated the exhaust is there to vent exhaust gases. Using the gases is fine, but there is no sense in creating gases which are not necessary which is precisely what off-throttle timing does......
     
  2. Simon^2

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    #2 Simon^2, May 20, 2011
    If anyone protests, it'll be Ferrari... :(
     
  3. Tifosi15

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    #3 Tifosi15, May 20, 2011
    Why? They have the system now too
     
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    #4 Simon^2, May 20, 2011
    Ferrari is competitive enough to do anything to win. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they removed it, and protested others that left it. (if they believe that is their best strategy)
     
  5. Ferraripilot

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    #5 Ferraripilot, May 20, 2011

    That's exactly what I thought would happen, but not necessarily Ferrari. Someone is waiting for someone to not run it and THEN someone will call foul and the stewards will review and ban it. If everyone is running it, I bet nothing happens. Every team knows RB benefits the most from this and they will do anything to pull them out of the stratosphere. It could be any team which calls foul now that the option has so conveniently made itself so known per Whiting's meeting.

    However there could be an ace hiding up someone sleeves during qualifying. Teams could chose not to run it and then one team will be brave and run it in q2 or q3 or something essentially taking a chance in seeing if they will get busted.
     
  6. LightGuy

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    #6 LightGuy, May 20, 2011
    Suposedly, according to Matchett, the reasoning is that since the exhaust gas (EBD= exhaust blown diffuser) is moving it fails the movable aerodynamic ban.
    Moronic if so.
    Exhaust gas has been moving since the first power stroke the day engines were invented.
    Exhaust gases have been used to produce thrust and aid flow shortly thereafter.
    FIA is just making rules to add confusion, create dissention, and change the order.

    Why was is just deemed illegal now and not from the start ?
     
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    #7 VIZSLA, May 20, 2011
    Strange turn of events even for F1.
    Charlie announces that blown diffusers will be banned from Spain on then retracts saying that the matter will be discussed with the teams around the time of the Canadian GP. Now he's inviting (begging?) the minnows to protest in the middle of a race weekend.
    Apparently he doesn't believe that he has the authority to act unilaterally but why the rapid about-face?
     
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    #8 Tifosi15, May 20, 2011
    Ah, gotcha'. I can see that being in their interest, it would hurt everyone but I can't help but imagine it would hit RB the hardest
     
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    #9 Remy Zero, May 21, 2011
    I'm confused, truthfully....
     
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    #10 Far Out, May 21, 2011
    Wtf? The ban is about the devices that alter the way the air flows, not about the air itself. That argument would mean that driving when it's windy would lead to a ban too, as the air moves...
     
  11. Ferraripilot

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    #11 Ferraripilot, May 21, 2011
    I think you might be missing what Whiting is saying. His position is that the exhaust manifold is for venting exhaust gases created when using the engine to accelerate. The manifold is not for creating unnecessary exhaust gases all in the name of aero. He and the Fia are seeing the change in engine mapping when off-throttle as affecting aero in an unnatural and unintended way, which it is.
     
  12. Tifoso1

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    #12 Tifoso1, May 21, 2011
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    You are right, RBR and McLaren are just all fighting to lose the titles as much as they can.

    IMO, this has more to do about leveling the playing field for ALL other teams so that RBR does not run away with the titles by mid-season.
     

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