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Is DRS a good or bad thing? **SPOILERS LIKELY***

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Is DRS good or bad for F1?

  1. Yes - I love it!

  2. No - Too artificial

  3. What's DRS?....

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  1. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Hey,

    It's starting to seem that "we're" almost equally split on the use of DRS - Some love it, others hate it.....

    So, cast yer vote - Whatcha reckon?

    Cheers,
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  2. Ferraripilot

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    I can't say that I *love it*, nor can I say I really don't like it. It's a tough call because DRS combined with tires which fall off so quickly are a bit of overkill and very much artificial, but when the tires are good on both competitors (the chaser and the chased) DRS is a great tool.........
     
  3. Far Out

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    I don't really like it. It's good that they think of new ways to allow for more overtaking, and I think it's good that they had the courage to give DRS a go to see if it works, but I hope it doesn't stay for too long. Just too artificial.
     
  4. RWatters

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    As long as these stupidly complicated aero packages are allowed I'm okay with DRS being there.
     
  5. ELP_JC

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    I'm also on the camp that it depends on the tires. DRS with Bridgestones would be fine in my book. But with Pirellis, it's just too much IMO. Since there's no 'it depends' option, will vote 'no' :D.
     
  6. Ferraripilot

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    +1 right on
     
  7. kraftwerk

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    The point of DRS is to promote passing, IMO it is, along with the tyres, therefore it's good for the show.

    The advantage it gives is quickly gone once the slower car has been passed, then it is handed to slower car, who then has the advantage.

    It's artifical, but when lately has F1 not been.

    Other than that we can go back to complaining about the lack of overtaking.

    It may need tweaking, however overall it's ok in my book.
     
  8. RP

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    #8 RP, Jun 13, 2011
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    The concept is nothing new, a soft spoken man from Texas with great vision came up with the idea of moveable wings a long time ago. He even came up with the idea of using the vacuum cleaner concept to keep a race car glued to the track, as driven by Jackie Stewart.

    It appears the system in F1 is a bit over complicated, but still, it is a good step forward in F1 to provide spectator friendly events.
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  9. SDC

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    A normal F1 follower does not understand DRS and KERS.... keep changing the rules again and again and again and see where this sport ends up... in the bin!
     
  10. Far Out

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    The DRS idea isn't about moveable aero - that's just the implementation - it's about creating an artificial advantage for one car closely following another. And that advantage is too artificial for my taste.
     
  11. zippyslug31

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    I consider myself a "normal F1 fan", yet I have no problem understanding how they both work, when they can be used, and the affect. Not sure your definition of the term 'normal'.

    Suppose if you NEVER change anything (i.e. rules) things can become stale. One might argue that the sport might also end up in the bin.

    While DRS does seem pretty contrived, I think they were "damned if you do, damned if you don't" as the masses buy tickets to the events and want to see action, yet the knowledgeable types rant about how silly the concept is.
     
  12. RP

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    Curious, why is DRS so artificial compared to anything from the past? Its just a progression from the original concept of changing the drag on a car, which DRS does. That would make all aerodynamic aids artifical.
     
  13. RP

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    Except for a few, DRS doesn't seem to be hurting the sport at all.
     
  14. Fast_ian

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    +1

    *BUT*, it's application is artificially controlled by the rules during the race.

    That's the problem that the "purists" have with it.

    If you make it's use "free" it loses it's intended purpose of encouraging overtaking as the lead guy can his too......

    Cheers,
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  15. Fast_ian

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    Indeed. Jim was (is!) da man!

    I remember well watching that wing move at Brands *years* ago - Awesome stuff!

    Cheers,
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  16. Far Out

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    What he said. I don't condemn DRS, but I don't think that it's the optimal solution either.
     
  17. RS man

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    The problem with the DRS is the fact that the DRS in unavailable for the car running in front. So if you have a car performing almost equivalently then the car in front cannot use this to defend a pass enabled by DRS and it is easy to understand that the car in front will be easily passed where there are long enough straights - imagine this in the last lap of the race (I think this was on Vettel's mind when he spun out - he won't have DRS and Jenson would have, the same scenario as Kobayashi and Massa). If the DRS was allowed for the driver in front to enable it to defend then it is even stevens so I will have no issue with that. Then you will argue what is the point of a DRS.... Sorry I am a dinosaur when it comes to F1 and too many gimmicks now to make the show "more interesting" because people want to see moreovertakes. I don't see the point of a technology which is not applied evenly to all drivers.
     
  18. Aircon

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    I've really enjoyed DRS this year, apart from the last race when I was watching MS being overtaken for a podium :)

    I was laughing at myself for suddenly wishing it didn't work.
     
  19. RS man

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    Yeah, it would have been so much better if DRS did not exist. Schumacher may have been on the podium - would love to see that again. His drive in the rain was fantastic and he deserved to be on the podium.
     
  20. Aircon

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    Well, contrary to the opinion of some, HE was up to it....sadly the car wasn't.

    Also, he finished only .3?? behind webber....so MS in the activation zone might have got past Webber 1 lap later. Oh well.
     
  21. VIZSLA

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    DRS is a good idea but it's unequal application is unfair.
     
  22. Aircon

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    I don't follow your logic.
     
  23. kraftwerk

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    A post from Florian (Farout) just about explains it.
     
  24. VIZSLA

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    I know ;)
    Any rule that gives any competitor an advantage, even if temporary, is unsporting.
     
  25. Aircon

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    ok
     

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