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    My god, an ATS a 904 and a Maser!!
     
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    #5024 is. : )
     
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    #8779 Miura Jota, Jul 7, 2011

    that Gullwing next to it is at least 13 years older than the Miura ... So.... :eek:
    that's waht I call a long term relationship

    unrestored ?
    mileage?
    pics ?
     
  5. joe sackey

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    #8780 joe sackey, Jul 7, 2011
    All the cars in that collection are original/unrestored, with very few miles (circa 2,000 each).

    No Mercedes Gullwing pics for the Miura thread unfortunately.
     
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    #8781 amenasce, Jul 7, 2011
    ATS!! Wow..what else??
     
  7. joe sackey

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    #8782 joe sackey, Jul 7, 2011
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    For example a very low-mileage and original Porsche 904 purchased new. That car was purchased before the Miura, and it caused this man to ask Sgarzi at Sant Agata to have his Miura installed with all-fabric seats per the Porsche 904. His point in doing so was that the fabric seats of the 904 remained cool in the summer, warm enough in the winter, and offered nice cornering grip. Accordingly, the car is thus-trimmed with a felt-like material and I have never seen these seats in any other Miura.
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    Interior and Mechanical all original. Car was painted a few years ago by a well known restorer/body guy and has been sitting for a while waiting to be rubbed/buffed.
    8,000 miles or so.
    I have posted pics online a few pages ago... But I think I have some period pics of the car.
     
  9. joe sackey

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    Ignore my previous response: I didn't realize you were asking about Miura SV 5024. Here it is in the period, but I'm sure SupercarGuru has better images..
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    #8785 miurasv, Jul 7, 2011
    With 2000 miles in 44 years he's done less than 50 miles a year in this Miura since 1967 so he wouldn't get the chance to get hot or cold in it. Perhaps he actually bought the cars with a view to driving them often. He's a very fortunate man to have owned such special cars since new and for so long too. Do you know of any other Miuras with low mileage like this, Joe? Oh and what about high mileage ones? What's the highest mieage Miura you know of?
     
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    #8786 Miura Jota, Jul 8, 2011
    this thread never ceases to amaze me ...
     
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    #8787 miurasv, Jul 8, 2011

    Why does my question amaze you? I'm very interested in how durable a Miura could have been. There's a 16,000 km (10,000 miles) example in this thread somewhere that's had the engine rebuilt 5 times. It must have been rebuilt by idiots though if the car has been driven normally or the mileage is not genuine. On the other hand there's a 400GT 2+2 that's on Jay Leno's site that's done 250,000 miles although the engine on that has been rebuilt 5 times by its owner.
     
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    #8788 joe sackey, Jul 8, 2011
    Agreed, as with most collectors he bought the cars with good intentions. Read: with an aim to drive them regularly. But, seeing as he has so many, and with the reality of life's time-constraints, most have been used very sparingly, although they are well taken care of.

    Yes indeed, I know of some other low-mileage Miuras, although a bit more than 2,000 miles!

    The highest mileage I have seen on a Miura clock is about 70,000 km I think. Id have to check my records. I'm sure some have done more.
     
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    #8790 miurasv, Jul 8, 2011
    Thanks, Joe. I'm sure that many are genuine but the problem with some cars too is the recorded mileage has decreased as they age. One example was a Miura S I saw when it was about 5 years old with about 25,000 miles on the clock. 10 years later it was showing 7,000 miles and a further 25 years on only 5,000 miles.

    What I'd really like to know is how many miles a Miura engine can last if looked after properly. I'd like to think that they could go longer than the 30,000 miles that I've read Bob Wallace says they'll do and then need a rebuild. If he did say this I'm not disagreeing with the great man. Perhaps petrol dripping down the bores when the engine is switched off which washes the oil off the bores has something to do with it? A problem with the triple choke Webers was the cause. My father actually designed something on his SV that stopped this. The problem was solved when these carbs were used on the Ferrari Boxer.
     
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    #8791 Miura Jota, Jul 8, 2011
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    because I was wondering the same question :rolleyes:
    We all Miura lovers are alike ...

    I guess no one ever bought a Miura in order to actually drive it
    besides Miura people usually own 20 or so other cars ....

    then again I might be dead wrong :eek:
     
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    #8792 miurasv, Jul 8, 2011
    Ah I see. Yes, we all share a love of this fabulous car. Though I'm sure there were rich people who bought Miuras because they could and just kept them, there would be car lovers who bought Miuras to actually drive them. How can any car lover look at a Miura and not want to drive it? My guess is they did.
     
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    #8793 joe sackey, Jul 8, 2011
    You are.
     
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    #8794 joe sackey, Jul 8, 2011
    That's unfortunate. Mileage, like life, is always being recorded somewhere or by someone. Best to let the truth paint an honest picture, although that's a concept that some people will walk through life without ever being able to grasp, and accordingly classic cars (including Miuras) will always have to have their lives investigated.
     
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    #8796 Olivier NAMECHE, Jul 9, 2011
    I don't know if you are speaking about mine... #3015 has 15.600km fully documented and 3 engine rebuilts since 1967 to my knowledge !
     
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    I must have got the number of rebuilds wrong but can I ask why an engine would need to be rebuilt 3 times in less than 10,000 miles? What went wrong in such a short distance, and 3 times too? Were they full rebuilds or just a minor recurring problem? I only ask as I'm interested in all Miuras and how they've fayred and stood the ravages of time, the elements and use.
     
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    #8798 miurasv, Jul 9, 2011

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...#post140109149

    Yes, this is it. Post 8192. You say it's been rebuilt 3 times that you know of and will need another rebuild before you take delivery so the engine has needed 4 rebuilds in 10,000 miles. There's mention of massive oil consumption, 1litre/100km
     
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    #8799 miurasv, Jul 9, 2011
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    You have seen it before, Sab. You posted this pic of it in post 8118 when the car was white. Note the car doesn't have the wide wheels on the back here either. (Talking about the lime green car seen at Goodwood posted by S A with reg. plate KRX 297H.)
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