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Gotta see this 512BBi on Ebay

Discussion in 'Boxers/TR/M' started by open roads, Jul 5, 2011.

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  1. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    I'm sending the Nigerians into talk to Chase, next.....they seem to have better luck.
     
  2. geno berns

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    Phil and Martha Bachman are both chief FCA judges and own the last 512 BBi built. They bought it new, took possession at the factory and shipped it to the US. It has I believe about 200 miles on the OD and is as-new. They had the car at the FCA Nationals two years ago in WI. I've seen a lot of mint Boxers, but theirs actually looks like it was built yesturday! I could not believe the way it was preserved. They also have a ultra low miles 365 BB. They judged both of by BBs.

    Geno.

     
  3. geno berns

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    Bubba,

    I need another BB like you need another 308! LOL...

    Geno

     
  4. donv

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    I understand that everyone enjoys their cars in their own way, but I simply cannot imagine owning a car like a Boxer (or any Ferrari, for that matter), and not driving it some!

    I only drive my cars around 1,000 miles per year (more on the 612), which isn't all that much, but to never drive it at all? Do they start it once in a while?

     
  5. open roads

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    That is the problem for me. I would want to drive it at least 500 miles a year. The odometer would be advancing. And to what degree?
     
  6. open roads

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    When I bought the Daytona it had 6,800 miles on the odometer. When I sold it after seven years it showed over 10,000 IIRC. It was my intention to sell it with 70,000 on it.

    The new owner will do as they please. I think is is worth noting that the current owner likes to have world class experiences. I can admit that it did become more ordinary with regular use. It remained special though.
     
  7. Sandy Eggo

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    This is a great observation. I bought my TR in late 2010 with 2,000 miles on the clock. I've since put about a 1,000 more on it (finally broken in). I do feel as though each time I drive it - it feels a little more 'ordinary'. So, I tend to favor the F355 which already has close to 43,000 miles and "save" the TR for those special moments/drives. Still though, 200 miles in 28 years on that BB for sale...wow...seems a crying shame to me.
     
  8. Hawkeye

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    Hmmm, never considered a BBi before.
     
  9. Sandy Eggo

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    Hey BigTex. Were you referring only to BBs? My understanding was the early TRs of that era did not come with factory radios. My research indicated that Ferrari would only install speakers and wiring at that time on the TR. Any thoughts on why they would have different policies for different cars of the same era?
     
  10. SCantera

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    I wondered when you were going to say that.
     
  11. BigTex

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    Not sure of the reason, but only that the BBis I have seen DID have a complete sound system, not just the prewire of the speakers and antennas.

    You recall that Pioneer Electronics became a Ferrari racing sponsor, about that time.

    Good place to showcase their products.
     
  12. Sandy Eggo

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    Ah yes, "follow the money". Makes perfect sense. Thx Tex. :)
     
  13. GrayTA

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    Nice car!!!





    PDG
     
  14. BigTex

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    #39 BigTex, Jul 7, 2011
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    You'll note that both the head unit and the equalizer bear both the Pioneer AND rectangle Ferrari logo, instantly recognizable, when they turn up, on eBay.
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  15. SMS

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    There are so few time warp cars that I'm glad we have certain examples around for all of us to see exactly what is correct, original, etc... Like the guys who found a 1200 mile Z28 last year, most all the muscle car restorers in the USA probably studied that car in great detail.

    But like you, I don't have that much self restraint, and would put a few miles on it each summer. Which is why I sold my 900 mile 79 Countach to a guy who was dedicated to preserving it before I turned it in to just another LP400s :)
     
  16. msdesignltd

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    #41 msdesignltd, Jul 7, 2011
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    That car looks Great....And even nicer without the Fendi or armani woven logo print on headliner and door inserts...which so many cars had back then...

    Wish it were mine!


    Proof positive they came mono chrome paint
     
  17. SuperJ

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    What a great story. Thanks for posting. If you go on his web site, it shows pictures from the factory.

    I want to have an experience like this.
     
  18. dmaxx3500

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    wow cool story, great car,
     
  19. Mario Pano

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    Too bad is not a 84 with a story like that!

    What a great job to document all these,the luggage and all ,great looking car.

    It will be worth another hundred grant in a few years when the economy gets better and more people wake up to how unique and great Ferrari the BB512i really is.

    One thing for sure BBs are never going to be worth less than now!

    Mario
     
  20. Mario Pano

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    At Nathan Beehl's book does not have this car in the list but anything listed from 48253 on through 48731 and all the way to the 50xxx serials cars are all 84s

    Should n't this car be an 84 with a serial like this?........which makes its history even better?

    Mine is a late 84 at 52039 at the bottom of page 235......I never knew how it got there......

    The five thousand serial number cars are the last ones made.

    Next page in the book they show 52935 as the last car.

    There is 36 pages of listed serials model years and comments on street BBs with about 56 cars per page except the last one that has forty.

    Is this car an 83 or 84?

    Mario
     
  21. BigTex

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    You would think so, but they have been creeping upward so slowly it barely noticable!

    We had AJ Foyt's as well as another prisitine example both going begging at $72K, back when JRV had his Pinnacle Motorsports in Houston
     
  22. Quadcammer

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    seeing all that passion for the car from the workers and their efforts to build a "good" one, and he turns it into garage art.

    Seems like a big waste, but his money his choices.
     
  23. Glassman

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    I'd love to buy the car then sell it in 30 years with another 1000 miles on it.
     
  24. Hawkeye

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    fixed :)
     
  25. Mario Pano

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    #50 Mario Pano, Jul 9, 2011
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    If you look at the drivers side leather you will see a couple of folds on the leather.......you can not do this with three thousand miles seat time........I bet the owner spend time sitting in it but not driving.......different strokes for different people.

    I have not been driving mine either and she has a new looking interior and more miles .
    I do not drive my BB not because I do not like to but because is a problem in this country getting the attention plus tickets etc

    What is the point going slow in a BB at the US speed limit.
    These cars belong in Europe....that is what I have heard from many police officers in my life many times in the long past....try to explain to one about performance driving and how easy a BB feels at 130 ......what used to get me is when I did that they were not around and then I would be going the speed limit and they try to give me a ticket for ten miles over......

    If I got a decent offer I would entertain selling mine also, only if I know where it goes...it is like a kid (over a couple of decades) and now I am too old to run together....but she has to go to the right home....her life goal is to stay pristine while enjoyed by someone that knows how to take care a BB

    I am the only title owner in the US and DMV let me keep the MSO(manufacturers certificate of origin)as a souvenir for the car

    My car was imported when new a week after was made in the factory(it was flown over)

    Most BBs where imported after owned in Europe and driven for quite a few miles.
    A car those days like a BB had to be used and have at least 7k miles to be allowed to be imported to the US.

    My car had to have the speedo spun up to 7 k to come in a week after it was built.
    It was a work of art also those days to have all the proper papers with a federalized car that manages to remain totally original in European trim.....

    I remember looking for ever those days to find one so hard since even at a few years of age most BBs where driven for many miles and molested to no end.....so many 3k mile cars with repaints etc.

    An original paint and interior car is the way to get the real deal, but one has to know what it looks like when new to know...........

    Mario
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