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  1. mseals

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    #1 mseals, Jul 14, 2011
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    Pics of my daughter's car after a high wind blew some roofing off a building. By the way, the roofing was not attached... it was scrap from a re-roofing job that hadn't been removed, and was left unsecured on the roof.

    By the way, I talked to the insurance adjuster for the building owner, and they are denying the claim, saying it was a Act of God...

    Needless to say, our attorney was called immediately...it's in her very capable hands now.

    Also, the body shop called my daughter and said that they quit entering damage halfway through because the car was 'totalled.' I told her to tell them to finish putting it in so she could take it to the attorney.

    *sigh*

    Advice? Car is a 2000 Pontiac Grand Am.... probably books out a $4K (maybe), and really was in great condition. Looks like I'll be buying a new (used) car soon....

    Mike
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  2. Rickenbach

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    #2 Rickenbach, Jul 14, 2011
    Did the roofer leave a note under the wiper? God didnt leave the unsecured roofing laying loose for the wind to pick up.
     
  3. mseals

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    #3 mseals, Jul 14, 2011
    The roof work was done, apparently, some time ago.... no one seems to remember when.

    I have no idea what the note was...

    The whole thing sucks, for sure... and trying to deal with this, and her, 7,500 miles, and 9 time zones away makes it even more difficult.

    Mike
     
  4. BubblesQuah

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    #4 BubblesQuah, Jul 14, 2011
    Seems like the claim would be against the roofing contractor.

    Mostly cosmetic except for the windshield? Does the passenger door still open?
     
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    #5 JohnnyS, Jul 14, 2011
    That's what I see. If she isn't too upset about driving a "student" car, fix the windshield, mirror and buff the rest out if you want. Should still drive fine unless I'm missing something major not showing up in the pics.
     
  6. mseals

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    #6 mseals, Jul 14, 2011
    Yeah, unless the owner of the building told him to leave it there to save money on a disposal fee or something...

    I don't know if the door opens... I'll have to ask, and she may not know... it was towed to a body shop.

    She's using the 1998 Sedan DeVille I keep in Oklahoma for when I'm home until this gets worked out... so, she's not without transportation.

    She just graduated in June, and started working two weeks ago in the Registrar's office.

    Mike
     
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    #7 wax, Jul 14, 2011
    Negligence on part of roofer [for starters] - he's culpable, as is chain leading up to and including property owner.
     
  8. mseals

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    #8 mseals, Jul 14, 2011
    I'm hoping the attorney comes to the same conclusion...

    So.... would, if liable, would the obligation only be up to the book value of the vehicle?

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    #9 BigTex, Jul 14, 2011
    THIS, have a local attorney immediately file suit against the owner, the roofer, and the roofers Bond from the surety.

    We'll show then where God stands.........:D :D

    That's not cosmetic that car is hurt pretty bad, have your daughter also contact HER agent and they will fix it and subrogate.

    I really had promise as a lawyer...LOL!
     
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    #10 BigTex, Jul 14, 2011
    Replacement like for like, attorneys fees, duress, loss of use, and if the Owner and the roofer are brothers Federal racketeering might be brought to bear!!

    Triple Recovery $$$ !

    Eyewitness News!!

    That pisses me off they would try that "shrug shoulders go away little girl" crap on her.
     
  11. mseals

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    #11 mseals, Jul 14, 2011
    She has liability only with Allstate... no help whatsoever...

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    #12 mseals, Jul 14, 2011
    Alan,

    You're crazy....!

    :D

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    #13 BigTex, Jul 14, 2011
    Get a sample of that material, if it's old enough to have asbestos, we have EPA HazMat Abatement and Illegal Dumping to add to the list of charges...
     
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    #14 BubblesQuah, Jul 14, 2011
    Did the material come off the building right next to the car - or the next one over? You can see some decent detail of the roof on both of those buildings in google earth.
     
  15. mseals

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    #15 mseals, Jul 14, 2011
    The building houses a book store called "Cowboy Book"... I believe she was parked right in front of it.

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    #16 BubblesQuah, Jul 14, 2011
    Yep, beside it actually, I think.
     
  17. BigTex

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    #17 BigTex, Jul 14, 2011
    Don't make me whip out my" Loss of Connubial Bliss"
     
  18. mseals

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    #19 mseals, Jul 14, 2011
    I was afraid of that...

    Seriously... but, I thought it was "Loss of Consortium"

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    #20 BigTex, Jul 14, 2011
    How does Officer Gibbs figure all that?

    Is Cowboy Books University entity?

    Sue the newpaper too, that isn't "rolls of roofing" it's been installed.

    "Leave it there instead of paying disposal".....I'll bet you a quarter right now there's asbestos in it and disposl is expensive.

    Sue everybody.......
     
  21. mseals

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    #21 mseals, Jul 14, 2011
    Officer Gibbs probably pulled that one bullet out of his pocket, and figured it all out himself...

    Cowboy books is part of an Omaha, Neb., corporation...

    Mike
     
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    #22 BigTex, Jul 14, 2011
    Was she IN the car at the time?

    I'm still trying to figure out his "She came out pretty good" comment...

    Compared to Joplin, MO, maybe???? :D :D
     
  23. BigTex

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    #23 BigTex, Jul 14, 2011
    Make the newspaper print a retraction:
    "As opposed to the previously reported "pretty good" status reported by the SPD, the car has been deemed a total loss, was not covered by the Owner's policy and a Relief Fund for it's replacement is at BoA Account #xxxxxxxxxx

    Litigation against Cowboy Books, a faceless out of state corporate conglomerate, has been filed as of this writing."
     
  24. mseals

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    #24 mseals, Jul 14, 2011
    No, she was at work...

    Car was parked by the store. Registrar's Office is down the street and over a little.

    Luckily, no one was walking by at the time...

    Mike
     
  25. GuyIncognito

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    #25 GuyIncognito, Jul 14, 2011
    Mike, you want to lawyer up over a $4k car? when your daughter has alternative transport?

    also, this is why you never get the "bare minimum" on car insurance.
     
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