UFC and MMA Thread

Considering Sonnen is still in the UFC - yes, it is unwarranted. Is it better to discover an abnormality before the fight, or after the fight? Personally, I would rather not see a fight at all if one of the fighters is going to be disqualified for steroids.

Nate was not taking steroids to increase his performance, he was taking them to get his testosterone back up to normal levels after it was discovered he was low. In such an instance, you are completely under a doctor's care, and rely on him to adjust your dosage to get you back to normal levels. If the doc miscalculates and gives you slightly too much, then you fail your physical. Who's fault is that?

 

1) Chael's abnormalities were discovered after the fight. The UFC made their money. The fans got to see the fight (whether or not you would want to see the fight is irrelevant). Could you imagine the ****-storm that would occur if it were discovered the day before the fight? Who would the UFC find to step in for him, especially against a guy like Anderson Silva? If that were the case, Chael would not only be cut from the UFC but I suspect Dana White would do everything in his power to make sure he never fights again.

2) It doesn't matter if the doctor miscalculated or not. The only reason Nate was in that position was because he spent months if not years abusing steroids. There's simply no place for guys like him in the UFC so I say good riddance.

 

Honestly, I find claims of hormonal imbalances by elite athletes to be dubious. Whether that's right or wrong - it's just how I feel. In the case of Marquardt or Sonnen, it may well be true - I don't know, but Marquardt is built like a brick s***house and was on the cover of Muscle and Fitness.

As a former competitive bodybuilder, I can tell you guys would make any excuse to do steroids. There's no denying the fact that it enhances performance, so why wouldn't an MMA fighter take them?

Again, it may be legit, but zero tolerance must be the policy. I like both fighters, but I think both should have been booted - it's setting a bad precedent. Per my previous post, the UFC may have this come back and haunt them...it wasn't long ago that the franchise was on its deathbed. It's taken years to get here and I have faith in Dana - the product is great...just want them to be careful.

 

What if Chael had won that fight? Could you imagine the s***storm then????

Personally, if I forked over the money to buy a PPV, or even more to attend the fight live, and the main event was a title fight, and the challenger won, but then got the belt taken away for steroids, I would feel more ripped off in that instance versus bringing another fighter to fight the Champ, or scratching that fight altogether.

 

So who's winning this weekend................Fedor or Hendo?

I am going with Hendo.

 

Gotta go with Fedor on this one. I love Hendo, but this is a big mountain to climb.

 

I'll pick Hendo, they're both on their way out, though could go either way.

The Hendo demolition of Bisping is my favorite moment in MMA history.

 

Should Fedor retire? I believe he should...

 

Absolutely.

He's made a grave error resisting UFC's high money offers in the past. Its all gone now.

 

Anyone know where I might be able to watch the Strikeforce event online? I missed it.

 

i think most of the fights are on here: www.mmatko.com

 

Agreed - he just didn't look like the old Fedor. All props to Hendo though, that's a tough dude.

 

I just watched the Fedor/Hendo fight. That fight was most definitely stopped prematurely. Good back and forth action up to the end. Would love to see a rematch. I don't think Fedor should retire based on the outcome of this fight.

 

Dana White is loving life right now with Fedor losing 3 straight... --Fedor should of jumped when he had the chance to come to the UFC, Dana would be a fool to bring him in now........

 

Strikeforce released Overeem...........

http://mmajunkie.com/news/24621/strikeforce-reportedly-releases-heavyweight-champ-alistair-overeem.mma

Strikeforce releases heavyweight champ Alistair Overeem
by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Jul 29, 2011 at 9:30 pm ET

Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem's run with the organization apparently is over.

Officials have released the heavyweight kingpin from Strikeforce's roster, according to a report from HDNet's "Inside MMA" show.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) confirmed the release with a source close to the fighter, though details weren't available. Officials reportedly exercised their right to eliminate the one remaining fight on his contract.

As MMAjunkie.com reported earlier this week, Overeem (35-11 MMA, 3-0 SF) recently withdrew from the organization's eight-man heavyweight grand prix. Overeem, who defeated Fabricio Werdum in an opening-round matchup back in June, was slated to fight Antonio "Bigfoot" Silva in the semifinals. However, when Showtime and Strikeforce officials were forced to move the event from October to a Sept. 10 show scheduled for Cincinnati, Overeem said he wouldn't be ready due to a broken toe.

According to "Inside MMA," Overeem, though, also is dealing with a broken rib and injured elbow.

Nevertheless, Overeem recently was booked for an October kickboxing event as part of a United Glory event in his native Netherlands.

As MMAjunkie.com reported at the time of the booking, sources said Overeem was in the process of working out a new contract with the promotion, which may have contributed to his unwillingness to compete for Strikeforce in September. It may also explain his recently expressed desire to challenge champion boxers Vitali and Wladimir Klitschko in a boxing contest – a strategy similar to the one Nick Diaz used to leverage his Strikeforce title into a shot at the UFC's welterweight belt.

Daniel Cormier ultimately took Overeem's spot in the tournament. Overeem's future now appears uncertain.

One thing is for sure, though. Now that the UFC's parent company owns Strikeforce, Overeem's chances of competing in either of the world's two most recognizable promotions are virtually nonexistent if the release is due to ill will. Barring a surprise move to the UFC, Overeem is going to be the sport's top free agent – but one far too expensive for most organizations to afford.

Overeem, who hasn't been defeated in four years and his past 11 fights, won the Strikeforce belt in 2007 and defended the title just once (against Brett Rogers) during his reign. The run included numerous overseas fights for other organizations, as well as an active K-1 kickboxing career.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AnSaAxd3AQAb6K8Rjf1nTnI9Eo14?slug=mmaweekly-44741671977aa1f4a816c62bcf260d99

How does the UFC get away with paying their fighters so little? I have always wondered that after seeing the fighter payroll after each fight. Dan Henderson was quoted as saying he made more this fight than he made in his last 6 UFC fights.....

Injuries play a huge part in the fight game, you never know how many fights your body will take over time and getting that money is key. Would you rather fight for the biggest name in MMA for peanuts or fight for a smaller player with a bigger payout?

I would rather nobody knew my name after 10 fights and sit back and enjoy my life than fight 25 fights and wonder where my next paycheck is.... I know endorsements pay alot to SOME guys but not everyone.....

 

Alistair couldn't care less. I love that attitude. He is SUCH A BIG NAME over seas. He'll have so many offers over seas for good money and lesser opponents.

 

That is precisely why Fedor never cared to get into the UFC.....he was making better money elsewhere, and from what I understand, has a piece of the M-1 Global organization.

It baffled me as well, seeing some of these guys making $6k for a fight. How can they possibly survive???

I find it amusing when people think that someone who is in line for a title shot should sit on the sidelines waiting for an injured Champ, like they are multi-millionaires that can afford to go without a paycheck. I like when Junior Dos Santos came right out and said he needed to fight for the paycheck rather than wait for the Champ. MMA is severely lacking behind so many other sports with respects to what a pro athlete earns. Top boxers make so much more than top MMA fighters. Just about every player in the NHL, MLB, NFL, and NBA is making at least a million per year, even the guy who warms the bench. It's a very hard sport to be able to even make a normal decent living.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AuC3opTydynspF3uaAXo_iA9Eo14?slug=mmajunkie-Dana_White_Strikeforce_Dan_Henderson_UFC

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AnFIjBm677iqx0rahyEsP6Y9Eo14?slug=mmajunkie-White_Emelianenko_Strikeforce_Showtime

 

Pick 'em!

UFC 133: Evans vs. Ortiz II
Date: Aug 06, 2011
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Venue: Wells Fargo Center
Broadcast: Pay-per-view, Spike TV and Facebook

MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view)

Rashad Evans vs. Tito Ortiz
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Vitor Belfort
Brian Ebersole vs. Dennis Hallman
Constantinos Philippou vs. Jorge Rivera
Rory MacDonald vs. Mike Pyle

PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)

Alexander Gustafsson vs. Matt Hamill
Chad Mendes vs. Rani Yahya

PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook)

Ivan Menjivar vs. Nick Pace
Johny Hendricks vs. Mike Pierce
Mike Brown vs. Nam Phan
Paul Bradley vs. Rafael "Sapo" Natal

 

I was pretty ticked when he went the 1st time. He truly belongs in the UFC.

 

All I care about on this card is Tito winning and Vitor winning.

 

Don't bet money on alot of those picks....LOL

 

I wish I would have. I was right on 8/11 fights.