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360Stradale 6-speed manual conversion

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  1. ferrari 512 tr

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    very interesting so far
    thanks
     
  2. anxpert

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    #453 anxpert, Jun 9, 2011
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    Trev,

    Found an additional 3+Lbs ...The Brake booster - Master Cylinder combination 360 Modena Vs. CS, not sure if you had the data ?
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  4. 360trev

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    I am aware of this part, however its worth noting this isn't specifically a CS part, it is actually intended for vehicles fitted with the CCM (Carbon Ceramic Brakes).

    Didn't know it weighed LESS though. The other thing that worries me is that the Brake booster is different for auto vs manual.
     
  5. 360trev

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    Odd that it says specifically that it does not fit the Challenge Stradale? Why is that? Not sure Scott could buy these since it has no option on that site for LHD vs RHD! They must have assumed all cars are LHD. They will be different too because of the pedals.

    I know that making exact equivalents of the Scud floor mats in (small 3 bar chequered pattern) aluminium get a lot more complex due to all the variants such as pedals, lhd vs rhd, manual vs f1, etc.

    I'll be taking a look at this again soon...
     
  6. anxpert

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    The difference could be vacuum in the auto vs manual, the CS has an additional in-line valve.
     
  7. anxpert

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    Not sure what the demand would be, but not a difficult job to run on our CNC or Plasma !
     
  8. 360trev

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    If you could look at this I've already got 20+ orders wanting Scud alike Mats...!!! Could end up turning in a profit.
     
  9. anxpert

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    I'll PM you for further details !
     
  10. anxpert

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    Cross referenced the part number, which applies to the 430 with CCMs, offered in 6 Speed Manual & F-1.

    I will check in further detail !
     
  11. anxpert

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    FYI, a couple of answers from Greg at Centric Parts, a trusted source :
    1) " Both transmissions are essentially the same and the
    engine would produce the same amount of vacuum at idle or during a
    driving cycle regardless of the transmission. "
    2)" Compare the caliper piston sizing on the CCM system calipers to the
    piston sizing on the iron system, then plug in the numbers into the
    Excel sheet for comparison. The caliper with the smaller piston
    sizing
    will generate less force output if you hold all the other gray boxes
    constant. That means in order to generate the same force-output as a
    larger sized caliper, more pedal force would be required or different
    master cylinder piston sizing would be needed. The way to get around
    having to press harder on the pedal is to increase the size of the
    booster. So, the oversized booster may be associated with the caliper
    that has the smaller piston sizing."
     
  12. andrewmr

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    I like it... tell us more....
     
  13. SED

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    I'm considering changing my exhaust system to a Tubi or the Factory Race Exhaust. Tubi claims a 18hp gain, what can I expect from the Factory Race Exhaust system and how do I do a ecu reflash after installation?
     
  14. 360trev

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    If you buy the Genuine Ferrari Race exhaust as an optional extra they will re-flash your ecu's as part of the upgrade.
     
  15. 360trev

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    More pictures and details to follow.
     
  16. 360trev

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    #466 360trev, Jun 17, 2011
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    Here's a picture for Scott. Thanks for your help with this one tracking the head vent pipe part down.

    Here is a picture (sorry for poor picture, its raining today so didn't take the car out of the garages yet) :(

    Anyway you can just about make out the Anodised racing blue pipe...
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  17. spiderscott

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    Nice one Trev looking great, I installed mine the other day to.
     
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  19. 360trev

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    #469 360trev, Jun 20, 2011
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    Here's a picture from the weekend (not taken by me) but I liked it anyway :)

    Scott, on the Tyre sticker.... what about this.... ?

    For anyone interested the fonts they used (2) are [or at least very very close to];

    1. Iso Becker
    2. OCR A

    Ditched the Italian translation and added PSI to complement the BAR reading ;)

    Both of which I found as 'free' Truetype fonts on the web..
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  20. stlouis

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    Pirelli PZero "Rosso Corsa" ?

    Red tyres then ?
     
  21. 360trev

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    #471 360trev, Aug 9, 2011
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    My conversion to Center Lock Challenge alloy wheels has been progressing slowly and expensively...
    It has literally been a pain and become quite a money pit actually.

    Firstly just the tools you need to buy;

    1. A huge $500 550+ Nm capable 1" sq. drive torque wrench (mine is nearly 1.3 meters tall!) or alternatively an race car garage impact air wrench.
    - to torque up the center wheel nuts
    2. A socket that tall 34mm impact
    - to remove the old 5-stud hubs (they are torqued up to 275Nm's from factory)
    3. A socket that tall 36mm impact
    - to fit new central nut hub nuts (again 275Nm's)
    4. A huge socket that is 80mm socket for the wheel nuts. (Pre-tighten to 350Nm's then finally tighten 550Nm's)

    The F430 Challenge specific bits req.d;

    1. x4 Replacement F430 Ch central fixing hub's
    2. x4 Replacement Hub carrier nuts & washers. The F430 Ch use higher spec 36mm CNC machined nuts/washes than fitted to the road car 5-stud hubs to attach the central hubs to the hub carrier.
    3. x4 Replacement Rear F430 Ch Center Bells. These are so you can re-using your Challenge Stradale ccm's, pads and calipers - You will actually need to source 4 working 430ch *REAR CCM center disc bells from F430 Challenge discs to re-use on your original ccm outers - replacing the original center bells. The original F430 Front bells WILL NOT WORK. Neither will your original CS disc centers since the internal diameter of the original hole machined into the CS discs is too small to fit through the central lock hubs from the 430Ch. Furthermore the front center bells from the F430 Ch will not fit because the 430 ch used larger 398mm discs (as fitted to the Scud) vs 380mm ones on the CS and they are wider (thicker) so the center bells have a recess in them to match up with the wider calipers and ccm discs fitted to the front. The only way to get everything to fit is to source x4 Rear center bells.
    4. x4 Central Nuts.
    5. x4 Central Lock Alloys.

    More pics and verification of *if* I need to replace the ABS ring sensors to follow...
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  22. saw1998

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  23. 360trev

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    :) Its been a long journey but I'm getting close to my 'perfect' car now...
     
  25. DonJuan348

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    After seeing what Trev has gone through , I think it would be easier to buy a CS and put three pedals in
     
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