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  1. davehelms

    davehelms F1 Rookie

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    On this point, you are absolutely correct, everyone has the right and I am sure the answers will be forth coming as they are identified, if it serves a general good.

    My problem is with the implications coming from........""Reading back over this thread, Braden installed the Rampante GCK connections and a new fusebox and now the OP has crazy A/C, heater and wiper issues.""

    The GCK FIXES problems when properly installed. Those that have been there know exactly what I speak to, those that have not..... in time will.
     
  2. davehelms

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    #152 davehelms, Aug 10, 2011
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    It's all good Dave, debate is good and much is learned from it, I never think poorly of that. I just want the record and printed words to state facts as assumptions can run the gammet and inadvertantly hurt those involved.

    To your point, you were spot on correct. The Tach is indirectly connected to the GCK in that one terminal on an ECU plug (a terminal that gets replaced) supplies the signal to the dash through multiple plugs in the wiring harness. The potential list of causes, on a car with damaged wiring, melted solenoids..... is long. Your statement of "If I touched it" is very well thought out. IF it was known to be working properly prior to any work being done... to the best of my knowledge that is not known here. In this case there is a lot of wiring, traumatized in the past, between the lump making noise in the back and a gauge in the dash.
     
  3. JoeZaff

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    #153 JoeZaff, Aug 10, 2011
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    Dave,

    I have never intended to insinuate in the slightest that there was some defect in your products. I think you more anyone know that I hold you in the absolute highest regard and beyond reproach. Furthermore, as the beneficiary of your extensive R&D and quality control, I have the upmost confidence in your products. However, since they don't install themselves, my focus was on other factor in the equation. My focus specifically is on the "when properly installed part" I didn't make that clear enough in my earlier post. There are three threads currently going on this car and I lost track of what thread I was responding to, apparently it was in a different thread where I questioned the installation competency in regards to wiper issue. Sorry about that.

    Here is what I had posted in the wiper thread:

    "I posted this elsewhere, but with all due respect to Braden, are there any factory trained mechanics or even experienced Ferrari mechanics in the shop. I sure don't see any mention of it on their website.

    You shouldn't be messing with italian electronics, especially Ferrari mechanics if you don't know EXACTLY what you are doing.

    I am not saying these problems were caused by Braden, but there is a reason people ship their cars across the country to shops like Rifledriver's, Dave Helms and Algar Ferrari.

    I hope I'm wrong and this is not the fault of Braden, but a response would go along way to alleviating our concerns."
     
  4. PAP 348

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    Great pics Ted!! Your little baby is absolutely gorgeous! :eek::eek:

    Hope you have that lovely machine sorted as soon as possible. :):)
     
  5. davehelms

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    My appologies Joe, I had no idea there were multiple threads going on with the same car and had not read any of the above.

    The respect is mutual Joe, few have the tenacity you have shown and the demand that all is correct, as you have on your own projects.
     
  6. BRADAN

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    Ted,

    Post some pictures of what your car looks like after 2k miles, I would imagine it's filthy.
     
  7. Mr.Chairman

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    What? What does that have to do with anything?

    R
     
  8. SonomaRik

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    Ya' know, I was having good feelings reading the various threads and responses as basically almost more civil than normal chat-flinging. But I'm not certain Brandan is being sarcastic, serious or just stupid at this point so PLEASE clarify the problems and takes to repair owner's statements.

    Brandan's fluid-clutch comment was almost too funny, but took away from the seriousness of the discussion.

    Sorry, but it looks to be going south on the seriousness of the original postings.
     
  9. Valenzo

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    Thank you ALL for standing up and discussing my situation openly and with an honest desire in my protection. I really appreciate your concerns and willingness to stick your collective necks out to help me out, especially you JoeZ and jjmalez.

    I in no way intended to accuse Dan @ Bradan or Dave Helms @ SRI of any wrong doing or neglect. Both are trying behind the scenes to work with me. In fact, Dave Helms contacted me at 7am to offer his assistance and he really doesn’t have to. He makes a fine product and owes no apology.

    It took a year of looking at Mondials for me to decide on the purchase of this one. i looked at and test drove 4 before decided mine was the one to buy. It had low miles, a full service history, one careful owner, the perfect color combination with an impeccable exterior and interior. Everything I checked, worked.

    The Bradan Group was recommended to me by a fellow Fchatter and since my car was already in NY, it made sense to have it sent to Bradan. Dan at Bradan, on his own time and nickel, took a ride out to perform a PPI and i received a clean bill of health. Other than needing a full Major, it had few other issues.

    I know that i purchased a Ferrari that can be very fickle and I know that you really don’t know what you have until you dig into it. Bradan fixed everything they said they would and yes it took a lot longer than we both thought, but now it still has some issues and Dan at Bradan has committed to see me through it, even though it may not be related to the work I paid them for. This morning, I went to drive it to work and found that it pee'd clutch fluid on my garage floor and when I moved it to get my other car out, it wouldn't go in to gear so i guess it's done.

    So please lets all remain civil and I will keep this thread going with updates as they occur.

    Just know for the record, Bradan is helping me sort through the clutch issue. He strongly believes it’s the throw out bearing. When I have some time I will take it to Continental in Chicago (Fchat sponsor) and get their opinion. If it is just the bearing, Bradan has offered one to me at cost and I’ll have Continental install it, i hope that ends this part of the problem.

    Regarding the electrical issues, Dave Helms has offered his knowledge and if necessary, it may be going to Colorado for the fall. Once again, Dave is being unnecessarily charitable, but i so appreciate it.

    I'll keep you all posted because I think there is a lot to learn from this.

    -Ted
     
  10. dailyferraridriver

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    Ted - thanks for the update. I think you are going about this rationally (bringing it to a local mechanic first) and I'm glad that Daniel stepped up even though it may not be related to the work you paid them for.

    If you need any parts, switches, etc - please let me know. I have boxes of them, I may be able to help you out.

    Keep us posted!

    Erik
     
  11. Valenzo

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    Erik,

    The heat is intense. Its obviously hotter when standing still but even at 65mph+ its fricken hot as hell. Whats causing this? i mean its a rear engine not front and therefore i cant figure out where the heat is coming from. I did find an out of place rubber boot that was suppposed to be covering the hole where the steering shaft goes through the firewall, when i re-secured it to cover the hole, it cut down the heat quite a bit but its radiating from the floor and under my seat.

    what have you done to cut this down>?

    btw, i appreciate the switches offer, i may come to you later on that.

    -Ted
     
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  12. Silver Lusso

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    This is a good thread - it captures the highs and lows of car enthusiasts! We're all so used to the modern cars and their variety of bells and whistles, that our cars from just before the computer age can often frustrate and complicate matters simply because issues are hard to diagnose. The owners manual in my old '66 jag saloon recommends that i complete a 12 point check each time before i crank the ignition - tire pressure, oil, etc. Honestly, I doubt i could find 4 of the checkpoints on my 2004 Land Rover. Hell, even last night I had to jumpstart my inlaws' '99 Mercedes - and couldn't find the battery! (located under the rear seat - go figure).

    It's been said many times before, and reigns supreme in the vintage forums, most notably in this Mondial forum with great enthusiasm (yes, i consider Mondial a vintage F-car), that these cars all have a personality and that's what makes ownership so exciting. Great mechanics are jedis, and you have to find one that suits your fancy because there will always be something else to fix and its the fun along the way that makes it special.

    Back on topic - I'm very curious about the two primary issues in Ted's T. In a weird way, it almost sounds like the clutch may be a quicker fix than the heat issue. These things run hot, but shouldn't be unbearable. Very curious on that issue.

    You'll be back on the road in no time. Cheers
     
  13. davidgovett

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    The heat is probably coming from the radiator as that is up front. It puts out nearly as much heat as an average engine bay. (Open the front hood and stick your head inside to get an idea.) That may be your heat source.

    Good luck
    Dave
     
  14. SonomaRik

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    The amount of heat I am hearing sounds excessive to me. I've never experienced that much in the foot well even on a hot day.

    The only really hot area was the trunk, which can melt Chocolate some days.
     
  15. Valenzo

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  16. SonomaRik

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    Valenzo: Nice combo.

    -- Does your Leather top-cover not go down all the way on the rear window portion? Or do you prefer it that way.
     
  17. Valenzo

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    No it does not go down all the way, its stretched to the max and still wont snap down. I've tried getting the top down further and tried different ways of snaping orders but no luch. I was thinking about buying a new one.

    unless you have a suggestion
     
  18. JoeZaff

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    #168 JoeZaff, Aug 12, 2011
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    This happens to most of them over time. I was able to get mine to snap shut by doing one complete side before moving to the other, but mine is canvas. I know somebody who had some luck getting the leather to stretch back out by using leatherique leather rejuvenator. IMHO, that, along with some leatherique pristine clean are must haves for these cars anyway, so its not like you will be throwing money away if it doesn't work. Just follow the instructions and hope for the best.

    If you want a new one, I would recommend GAHH.

    http://www.gahh.com/product_info.php?products_id=127

    You can get it in leather or canvas. I used them for my top and it is virtually indistinguishable from the OEM and fits perfectly. I haven't purchased their boot cover, but I have heard good things.
     
  19. Valenzo

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    Thank you Joe, I was hoping to find a source and now i have one. Now i just have to decide black or tan. Since i have tan i'm thinking black so i can switch it up.

    Next, i want to glue down the black console piece where the switches are, its starting to detach itself.

    I figured out what to do with the clunk clunk sound from the front door hinge so i will fix that, thanks to cockrill.

    I would like to figure out why my seat seems loose. I mean it reclines about an inch when i sit back and that bothers me.

    ...and i have something chirping under my dash when the car warms up and i hit bumps, that drives me nuts the most.

    So i have little things to make right but i'm not sweating it too much.
     
  20. JoeZaff

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    These are the fun little projects that make owning an older Ferrari fun.

    Regarding the black console piece, I've seen more Mondials than I can count that have suffered that delamination. From time to time someone comes along offering silk screen overlays, but I haven't seen one in awhile. One thing I have heard, but I have no personal experience with (my console is still holding up), is to put glue in a syringe, slide the syringe under the overlay where it is popping up, squeeze out a drop or two of glue and presto. I have not tried this, and I can't promise you it will work, but is an idea I have seen floated around.

    GOOD LUCK!
     
  21. RoPo54

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    Here's my suggestion for a simple fix: have a piece of elastic with a tenax fastener sewed onto the ends of the leather boot where they affix behind the seats. I added this and its a pleasure to attach the boot.
    Rob
     
  22. Valenzo

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    hmmm. my tenax attach behind the seats but not in front of the hatch. If I understand you right, get a black elastic strap from a fabric store, attach a tenax on each end and then voila, you have an extension much like a fat gals bra.
     
  23. RoPo54

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    #173 RoPo54, Aug 12, 2011
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    Yes, exactly! It is a cinch to attach and the elastic is hidden as it is behind the seat.
    Rob
     
  24. Valenzo

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    good stuff there, i will do that. Will the tenax tear through the elastic or does it need to be sewn in?
     
  25. RoPo54

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    I don't think mine was sewn in.
     

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