Miura, the original supercar

Excellent. That's another thing I learned today from you, Joe. There's me going on about 4812 having them in the wrong place too. Just out of interest, did 4758 always have SV badges on it? I think their in the middle under the Miura badge.

 

Cheers, Joe. Yes, please post the close ups you have when and if you have time. I must apologise to the restorers for accusing them of not paying attention to detail. I said here that the 'V' on the recent Bobileff SV conversion looked too small as well. I was wrong again. I've since seen small V's on original SV's too.

 

Gentleman,
I have read the previous threads, and now I feel compelled to reply. A comment was made about the green Miura not starting at Concorso, and the possible incompetency of restorers. Also, it was said that they cars should be tested PRIOR to showing. Well, I would like to set the facts straight for the record. First, Mr. Greg Dahlen does not own the car. he was only showing it for the new owner. Mr. Dahlen sold the project in the latter part of 2010, in mid stream, and I painted , upholstered, and assembled the car for the new owner from Japan. The car was tested and ran great, but on the 4.5 mile trip between the transporter and Concorso it started running very poorly, I surmise that one set of 4 points either broke or became radically out of adjustment. The drive on the golf course was not good running on 9 cylinders, and after parking the car on Thursday, it attempted but refused to start on show day, Friday. I, as well as Claudio attempted to start the car, but sans tools and parts, there was no success. The car still went on to take second place, even though it did not run. And to attest to the fact that I do test cars before showing them, the other green Miura S from Switzerland that I just finished restoring won Best Lamborghini at Concorso, as chosen by the Lamborghini Club. Then, it went on to win People's Choice, 1st in class, and Best of Show. It is unfortunate that the ex Dahlen car didn't start, but that was not because of poor preparation, or a lack of testing.
Gary Bobileff

 

I wasn't so sure if my memory serves correctly

Sorry


as for the Miura - Pantera similarity

It happened while watching a movie in which a Pantera suddenly appeared

and my Wife yelled ; Look at that ! a Miura she said

and I couldn't blame her because of the grilles look alike
then I noticed some Pantera feature the bull's horns too .

besides it's no wonder that Miura styling cues were taken by other cars in the 70's

 

My bad Gary. I even talked to Greg and he didn't say it was no longer his. We were basically talking about restaurants in SB. -- So sorry about that, I didn't know he had sold it.

It's certainly a beautiful car, and I think everybody there was surprised that it just sputtered and died all day long. I guess you never know about these things.

How does the car take second place if it doesn't even run? Isn't it like Pebble Beach, where it has to drive across the ramp? Seems like it should be. Who were the judges?

Fred

PS: Just reread the thread -- who said anything about "the possible incompetency of restorers."

PPS: Sorry...I'm back with another comment after thinking about this. Claudio worked on my 400 down in Los Angeles back in 1984, I know how good he is. He's WAY good at this sort of stuff. He'd have like 15 Miuras lined up in front of his shop at the time. If it were points, I mean honestly, wouldn't he just take the caps off the dizzys and go "whoa, you got point problems" just like that? (in fact, knowing Claudio he probably wouldn't even need to do that...he just knows -- from experience -- when it's a problem like that). I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just trying to figure out how bad points could cause anybody to try and start a car for ... 8 hours? Did you guys ever find out what was wrong and get the car running? Aaron Robinson had basically the same problem with his Espada, same show. He threw on some newer carbs and off he went, good as new...350 miles back to LA.

 

I agree with Joe. No similarity between Pantera and Miura. Maybe Mangusta has a bit of a look like a Miura......swoopy, low, and with some feminine sexiness. But not the Pantera. It is more masculine, wedgey, and linear look. I only know of children that think Pantera and Miura look similar.

 

http://www.themiuraregister.com/miura/register.php?id=626

I'm answering my own question here. Here's a pic posted by my fellow native Chaos of 4878 when painted red that clearly shows it with the prototype headlight surrounds. Perhaps it's just extra black paint surrounding the lights in the cover pic that makes it look like the surrounds from a later SV?
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Cheers, Joe. I've become a Miura anorak. Sorry, everyone. I've always been totally obsessed by Miuras but since coming across this thread and reading 'The Lamborghini Miura Bible' I'm out of control. I'm finding all the detail differences between the cars and their each individual histories fascinating.

 

Interesting blackout paint scheme on the valance. I wonder if this was to hide a bit of the ubiquitous tailpipe soot...

 

Thanks again, Joe and I appreciate the time and information you freely give in this forum. Just checked my reference book (your book) and 4846 was originally green. Is there any chance the badges could have been put back in the wrong place when resprayed? 4812 (ex Ron Stern RHD SV JLL 838K) originally had the SV badges in the middle when it was lime green but the replaced rear clam has them offset like 4846 does above. Also the ex Rod Stewart 4818 also has a replaced (unoriginal not even made by Bertone?) rear clam and the badges are offset to the left. Just thinking out loud here to cover all possibilities.

 

Whoever painted Rod's car had the same (good) idea.
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As Spock may say, "that's quite logical". Nobody would have filled/welded shut the old holes just for the sake of it and then drilled new ones in the absence of any damage would they? Interesting what you say about the wider spacing of the badges on split-sump SVs.

 

The RHD car in the picture had the rear open at speed when it was new and had to have some repairs,this has happened to a number of later cars with the single lever,I know this one had some work because I reversed into a tree when I owned it and all the body filler fell out,this might explain why the SV badges are often misplaced because of rear end resprays
Stephen Keen

 

Any Miura photos and chassis info from Monterey shows?

 

Do you know the c/n of this one?

 

Which Miura is this, Stephen that you posted in post 8365?

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?p=140382225#post140382225
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The green ex Dahlen car is # 4142
Gary Bobileff