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Dino 00468 - The Mysterious Dino

Discussion in '206/246' started by tx246, Aug 26, 2011.

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  1. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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  2. HMB-Dino

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    My Euro M-Series Dino currently has that US style steering column cover but without any SN stamped on it. The Euro style steering column cover I plan to install is this one (viewing side that will face up when installed). No flat area for VIN, and matches my 1971 OG (48/71). The steering column cover appears to have changed for 1972 US versions per the 1972 US OG (see diagram).
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  3. 4CamGT

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    So few Dinos exist. We need to preserve, restore or in this case bring back the true identity of this Dino. I would be surprised if the current owner of this Dino isn't watching this forum. If it were me and I bought this Dino unknowingly I Would want to learn and do everything to bring back its honest original identity. With the help of this board the hidden numbers can be found and disclosed. Most likely it has most of its original parts. The motor number would tell when it was built. Why were the numbers changed? Well it would be simple to guess. Where was it first sold? What are the laws of that country? In any case, it was bought for real Dino money through a real auction company. A good story for SCM's Legal Files. Bottom line, all Dinos have history, good and bad. I'd like this Dino to have a happy ending. We should stay focused and use our collective knowledge to help.

    Freeman
     
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  4. Nuvolari

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    I shall also note that on the Euro M series Dinos the steering column cover is a very rough wrinkle finish paint (as seen in Ron's photos) while the steering hub is a much smoother wrinkle finish that is more even and uniform.
     
  5. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    Freeman,

    100% agree, but it's gonna be tough to do without the owner's cooperation.

    I think any of us, given an honest hour with the car, could gather enough information to ascertain the original serial number. Might take some digging post exam, but certainly we could noodle it out.

    There must be a way to figure out who the buyer was, don't you think?

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  6. 4CamGT

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    It would truly benefit the owner. This Dino needs an intervention!

    Freeman
     
  7. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ Lifetime Rossa Owner

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    Ok, just shot an email off to Mecum, we'll see if they respond.

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  8. Nickrry

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    Wouldn't the body number eg on the boot hinges relate to the chassis number?
     
  9. HMB-Dino

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    You're making the assumption that the body # is on the boot hinges...it isn't on my 71 Dino and I suspect my hinges are original since they're due for replacement.
     
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    This is true-- if this car was stolen or was otherwise grossly misrepresented the sale should be nulllified at this time and the car returned to the seller.
     
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    I replaced the rivets on my hinges, they work like a charm now...

    As far as the questionable Dino, the most apparent and easy to spot number is on the header tank support.

    Regards, Alberto
     
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  12. GermanDino

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    Hello Shawn,
    the original #06630 was renumbered to B600005082.
    The ex Weaver Dino #06630 has a fake chassis no. (still has the fake number #06630) and was original #04642 or a Dino close to this chassis no.
    So the answer is no.
    #00468 is an early E-series, as I said I would need numbers, ideally the body no., to be more precise...
    Regards Matthias
     
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    Relevance?
     
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    probably just showing the stamping
     
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    perhaps, but already shown in post #26...on this same page
     
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    I think he is trying to point out that this "US type steering column" also appeared on some Euro Dinos, albeit very late ones. 07266 is a Euro Dino. That is the difference to the photo in post#26.
     
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    I would guess it has something to do with why the trunk lid doesn't fit. Maybe the original lid was crushed.
     
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    LOL!

    They did indeed try to "stamp it.

    The trouble is, that is a column casting MUCH harder material than the steel frame brackets/yubing.

    I don't know how Ferrari made the lettering but it wasn't stamped.
    Most likely engraved with a type machine like we do on nameplates.

    Much better to be 'blank' they were trying 'a little too hard" at that point.

    You can see air pockets in the welding patch, at the frame rail VIN also.
     
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  20. velocetwo

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    First rule for auctioneers should be to confirm VIN and do a close inspection of the stampings, if the auction house finds questionable stampings the owner should be questioned, but they don't really care as long as they can make some commission.
     
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    You're right. Maybe we should PM the mods and ask for a ban
     
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    Actually, Lars comment (post #42) is interesting. I may have falsely assumed that only USA Dino's had the VIN # style steering column cover. If not true, my apologies.
     
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    One of our Houston friends needs to stop by and click a few pics.
     

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