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The official replica/re-creation thread

Discussion in 'Recreations & Non-Period Rebodies' started by WILLIAM H, Mar 18, 2004.

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  1. Darolls

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    Ask Frank Beard of ZZTop fame. He had Mark Gerish build a 250 GTO Spyder for him. Also built a pontoon fender Testarossa.

    I also have a friend that owns 13 Ferraris and many other exotics. He has a 250 Testarossa I believe was built by Wright. The 2 cars mentioned have Ferrari drive trains and instrumentation.

    These are people that can afford the real thing if available!

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  2. Ferrari-Sammler

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    .....wow 151 of 39 GTO survived
     
  3. Darolls

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    It is amazing, isn't it? :rolleyes:
     
  4. Bryanp

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    thanks for posting those serials, Peter. They were:
    3839 250GTE
    3873 250GTE (RHD)
    3933 250GTE
    4243 250GTE
    4281 250GTE
    5059 330 America (only 50 made)
    5837 330GT 4HL
    6197 330GT 4HL (RHD)
    6333 330GT 4HL
    7695 330GT 2HL (RHD)
     
  5. bigodino

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    And the first one pictured is 3781, which was a 250 GTE as well.
     
  6. omd78

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    How many GTE's were built in total?

    Gr. Martin
     
  7. bigodino

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    According to the 250 GTE register there were 955 GTEs built.

    Many have been used to build replicas of GTOs, SWBs, and various types of TRs.
     
  8. GTE

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    And how much 330 America's have been axed to become something theyre not? I believe around 50 were built. A pretty rare Ferrari in it's own right.
     
  9. JeremyJon

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    out of curiousity, how many? does anyone have an idea of amount sacrificed for rebody (or other)??

     
  10. gtospoons

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    #1635 gtospoons, Sep 11, 2011
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    Just to clarify your chassis numbers: This is 7695GT and I built it from an engine, 5 speed gearbox and identity only. The components were destined to be used in a trackday jalopy but I managed to convince the then owner to exchange them for my hard earned cash so that I could return them to where they belong. Ie., to something at least looking like a Ferrari. We created a correct GTO chassis and body with 2 wing cooling vents as per the original two 4litre Ferrari 330GTO's #3765 and #3763, except in RHD form for the UK, dry sumped the engine and cast my own 6-carb inlets. It took me 9 years to do this but she is fabulous and virtually nut and bolt correct. "Lobo" of course.

    Bigodino, I would be interested in how you identified 7695 in your post and where you saw it?
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  11. 166&456

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    That is actually a very pretty car.
     
  12. Julio Batista

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    #1637 Julio Batista, Sep 11, 2011
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    There is no such thing. A recreation is a replica is a continuation, in other words a fake. And quality fakes do not exist.

    Do you realize what a ridiculous and nonsensical statement that is? "Making something original" is perfectly impossible. Do you understand the meaning of the word original?
     
  13. Julio Batista

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    I had never considered "Frank Beard of ZZTop fame" as a taste reference in Ferrari matters, but who knows...

    By the way, who the **** is "Frank Beard of ZZTop fame"? And I don't know your friend, either.
     
  14. 250P

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    Does that include the 'rebuild'/recreation of 0202A?
     
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  16. dax

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    sn 3121 (250 GTE) was rebodied into GTO form. Any remarks on this rebody.
     
  17. Jeff Kennedy

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    #1642 Jeff Kennedy, Sep 11, 2011
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  18. PSk

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    #1643 PSk, Sep 11, 2011
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    +250, everything perfectly stated.

    And I'm an Alfa Romeo "restorer" (as in I'm restoring my own), and anybody that thinks they have a picture of a Ferrari that is apparently beyond restoration, I can show you probably 5 Alfa Romeo restorations that are way beyond that point but are lovingly restored, often by their owners.

    IMO an Alfa Romeo enthusiast is more of an enthusiast than a so called Ferrari one. Why? because unless we are talking pre-war Alfa Romeo's we are talking about relatively cheap cars ... thus there is NO profits to be made, but they are still restored. If one was going to be negative, it appears to me that most Ferraris are only restored/replicated to make money ... and that is NOT being an enthusiast.

    I know of one 1750 GTV in New Zealand that has been written off at least 3 times (usually track related accidents) but it never dies, it keeps getting rebuilt ... heck you can buy another for under $10,000, but nope she lives on :). The owners of this car are real enthusiasts (but maybe should be a little more caring on the track :D).

    Pete

    ps: Below is an example of an Alfa Spider restoration (by www.petescustomcoachbuilding.com) that I doubt would have happened if the poor car had been cursed with the Ferrari badge (this car is having all it's floors replaced, include boot floor, chassis rails and most of the car behind the doors, front chassis rails and I could go on. My own car, is a mere 1971 1750 GTV and by the time I finish it's shell [not far now] I will have replaced something like 70% of it due to rust):
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  19. John Vardanian

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    #1644 John Vardanian, Sep 11, 2011
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    It is indeed. I am glad to see another person with a highly refined taste like mine.

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  20. PSk

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    While it is a pretty car and does resemble a 250GTO, the badge snobs will never like it because it does not have a Ferrari engine, etc.

    The fact is park almost any Ferrari replica beside a real one and they difference is huge anyway, AND I commend you for not destroying an old Ferrari to make yours.
    Pete
     
  21. John Vardanian

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    PSK, are you saying this is not a real 250 GTO?
     
  22. PSk

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    :D

    How's the Lusso restoration coming along?
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  23. John Vardanian

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    It's coming. Just brought home the engine block from the machine shop. The heads are next.

    john
     
  24. Darolls

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    With no disrespect meant, you're obviously not that educated in the world of Ferraris and other low production cars. In the old days, Rolls Royce only produced the chassis and farmed them out to coach builders that made the bodies and interiors. In your mind they wouldn't be a real RR??

    Same goes with Ferrari. Many are rebodied but still considered original with no diminished value.

    Remember, most coachwork wasn't made or designed by Ferrari, but was the product of Pinin Farina, Bertone, Fiat etc etc!
     
  25. Aedo

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    WOW is all I've got to say :)
     

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