My project: 308 GTB group 4 rallycar

that's a difficult one. I bet Sean could fabricate a dry-sump system as he did on his own engine.

 

Certainly there is one lying around one of the garages near the Factory???

Classiche of course would be an expensive route to procure one.

 

I don't think that is the case any longer, there WAS a basket case here that was for sale from a Trailer Park, and when they towed the car backwards the engine cover ripped off, thru the roof....

The pile of engine bits was a really odd mish mash, it was a Euro car VIN but it looked like a wet sump block , to me.

When they tore the car up, I lost interest in pursuing the deal..

 

I had one a few years ago, it (#0785) ended up in MAT's VS Olio-FIAT-livery grp.IV car....at least the short block did. Heads went somewhere else.

 

Still one of my top 5 threads of all time. Ok maybe best!

That car looks incredible Morten! Thanks for sharing.

 

Hi Morten,

If you can't find a dry sump block the wet sump block should be easy to convert/make identical to a dry sump block. I think you can drill the internal passage that feeds the filter housing on the wet sump block to make it like the dry sump. I know the boss for the scavenge discharge is cast on there on many blocks as are the bosses for the dry sump pump mount.

The timing cover is the buster ... and FWIW it requires a different stud pattern on the gearbox so I'm not sure a person would really want to use that unless it was absolutely necessary that it be a factory piece. Mine works with the stock gearbox but it is a lot of work!!!! If I didnt care about "looking stock" there is a pretty simple oil pan design that can scavenge the oil with external scavenge pumps and plumb to the factory gear driven pressure section from the tank.

Incredible builds you guys are doing there!!!

cheers,

Sean

 

Actually, what Sean designed is better. Definitely not a shortcut.

I follow the progress of this car weekly! Fantastic stuff

 

The quote above is post #32 in this thread.
I hope Jim is still on this board, the car he mentions is chassis# 18847.
It was one of 4 Michelotto Gr.B cars. Three of these cars had four valves per cilinder heads (I am avoiding the name QV heads, because I'm not sure if the 4V racing engine heads were based on the QV heads...), and 1 was a 2V car.
#18847 was a white car with gold Valentino sponsoring, and carried license plate PD 723098. PD stands for Padova, where Michelotto is based.
All 4 Gr.B cars were campaigned by Pro Motor Sport, and this particular car was driven by Luigi 'Lucky' Battistolli and navigator Claudio Berro (big boss at Lotus' racing division nowadays!).
It finished 2nd in the '84 Della Lana Rally.
It also competed at Monza in 1984 with Waldegaard at the wheel, and Thorsz as navigator.
Does anybody know if this car still exists?
Last week, on ebay, I was lucky enough to purchase the original Warranty Card and Owner's Service Book for 308GTB #18847, one of 4 Michelotto Gr.B cars.

Back to you Morten, keep us posted on your progress! Give my regards to Kari if you see him. Like I mentioned before, he used my old engine in the FIAT Olio VS car he built.

 

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I agree Vasco, a great thread. Looking forward to it picking up again.
Great work Morten.

 

Morten, you would not happen to know if 18847 still exists, and where?
Kind regards, Mick

 

+1

other than the 4 valve head, most of the goodies of the gr4 cars werent allow without the 200 units need for grB

 

yes i would be the first inline to purchase a book...

i do have an copy of an old michelotto gr4 road test somewhere