MS vs Hamilton in Monza *** SPOILER***

So that means Alonso should have also gotten a drive through for pushing Vettel off in the dirt. I am sure there were many other incidents in the race that should have had penalties. But at the end of the day if the stewards didn't see it, then its not a penality.

 

It looked like good, clean racing to me.

 

IMO there have been some questionable calls all season.

MS's rather dubious/dodgy moves at Monza, being another one of them.

 

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/7176012/-Schu-Should-ve-Been-Penalised-

"He was warned repeatedly, and this style of driving is not what you want the future generation of drivers to perfect"

So future f1 drivers will be driving in a series call formula wussy with huge rear view mirror to let anyone by if they are faster. What have happened to f1.....

 

Once again, "can't please all the people all the time".......

Some will say "it was good clean racing, and blocking has always been a part of it." - Michael is the master of reclaiming his line, not blocking etc..... [The old boy can still do it ]

Others will claim it's "dangerous, stupid and the perpetrators should be expelled."

Seems to me which side you fall is determined by the protagonists - To some, if it's Michael, it's OK where Lewis should be hung-drawn-&-quartered for the same behavior. To others, Lewis is the best precisely because he pushes the limits of what's legal.

Cheers,
Ian

 

I think it was a little bit of both. Both arguements hold water. Some will say he made 1 defensive move and then simply moved back to the racing line while others call that two defensive moves. Both are solid. Ultimately it was up to the stewards and their decision was to tell Brawn to tell Michael to take it easy out there. David Coulthard and teh BBC guys put it best in saying Michael was dancing right on the edge of good and bad. That's how this will go down. Another controvery with several opinions and no solid right or wrong answer.

 

It certainly seems that's what happened. However, that's at odds with Andreas' OP - It seems Daly is now claiming they would have penalized him had they seen it......

Whatever, it's now water under the bridge (or wee-wee down the toilet as my buddy says )

Cheers,
Ian

 

Maybe they heard it was happening to Lewis and some of the stewards had a blind eye

 

I would say MS got away with one double blocking move, and he was dancing on the border of whatevers legal for the time Hamilton was up his rear.

Ross Brawn called his man twice and put him straight, and thats it, hopefully other drivers will or can get that chance, in the future.

If the positions had been reversed....hells bells second thoughts, I don't want to even think about that.

Hamilton's race was stuffed, but he kept tight lipped about it.

 

Oh man don't go there either..

 

I think blocking is frowned upon, because of the increased risk of a cars getting airborne.

 

Good hard racing.

 

And I have to say Mr Hamilton impressed by not spouting off to the press as he has been known to do in the past.

Personally, I feel it was good racing and right on the edge of the rules.

 

Remember Mansell v Senna in Monaco. I just thought it was great, exciting racing. Hamilton was geared too short, and he suffered for that. What is wrong with that.

 

That's two races in a row Hamilton has been mature about things. Baby steps? I'll say like I said after Spa, I think this might be the turning point for Lewis and possibly another/more WDCs

 

Was good, hard racing. Wish F1 had more of it at this point...

 

It was definitely against the rules. MS clearly made more than one blocking move on more than one occasion.

But the only reason it was such a problem is that the Mercedes was faster in a line, and the McLaren was quite a bit faster in the turns - so it turned into a cat-and-mouse game. Lewis not only needed to get by, he needed to do it a certain point of the track to put enough gap on Schumi so he wouldn't get re-passed as soon as the next straight came.

However, while it was clearly a violation of the rules, it was handled appropriately. The team got on the radio and told MS to knock it off. He knocked it off and all was well.

Giving him a drive through for that would have been utterly ridiculous.

 

are you sure? I seem to recall Brundle and Coulthard saying (during the race) it could be argued that's what he was doing....and that it was right on the edge of what's acceptable.

 

Great photo!

 

So would you think what Alonso did Vettel was illegal? I see no difference between what Schumacher did to Hamilton and Alonso did to Vettel. If anything I think Alonso's move was out of line.

 

I was referring to the picture you posted of MS pushing Hamilton onto to grass. From your posts, you say this was the incident(Your picture) that the stewards were looking closley at. Based on this photo I dont see the difference between what MS vs Hamilton and Alonso vs. Vettel. However, I do agree that there was one time I did see MS block Hamilton.