The official replica/re-creation thread

Pardon my ignorance, Darolls, would that be Mark Passarelli (Pass)?

Andres

 

I never said I was keen to see them cut up. I simply meant that keeping dead ones alive by rejuvenating them is an asset to the community.

The 330Gt was traded in on a 3.8 E-Type Jag which was later traded on a 4.2,and that was traded in on a 365 GTB Spyder Daytona(not a chop job) in the late 60's. As I recall it cost about $17K back then. Not a lot of money by today's standards but big bucks then.

Wish I still had it as it would have become one hellava investment. Actually I wish I still had all of them!

 

They do not use dead ones, infact this is a myth that is used to make these replicas appear more acceptable.

Maybe when this process started in the horrid 1980's this was close to true, but it started in the 80's to make huge $'s and it continues today because $'s can be made. No other reason. People who make these cars sell them ... they do not make them because they passionately wanted one, it is just business.

I can show you photos of perfect 250 GTE 2+2 body shells that have lost their chassis' and drive train. I can show you photos also of perfect cars in New Zealand that are going to be destroyed to make replicas where the owner will not even sell them ... people have tried to save them (offering reasonable amounts), but he will not listen. These cars are good enough to show ...

Go to www.tomyang.net and search for "The Story Behind the Forlorned Ferrari" ... I cannot find the thread about the 3 NZ cars though.
Pete

 

I know of 2x 250PF coupes that need resto's that were chopped up for TR reps in NZ.

 

Actually I'm over the replica debate ... unsubscribing.

Hopefully one day I can save one of these old cars ...
Pete

 

Four cylinder engines on a Ferrari? Awesome! I would have never thougt so. All my Ferraris have 12 cylinders!

Given that you know so much, perhaps you can help me with this picture. I know it's a Ferrari, but I wonder, how many cylinders does it have? After telling us the number, you (or another expert) could further and truly impress me by identifying the driver and the event.

Be careful, don't make any inadvertent mistakes, some people here will be quoting you for a long time...

Cheers,

Julio
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Thank you for your kind reply. I appreciate the fact that you have been a Ferrari owner for a long time (in fact slightly longer than myself, congratulations!).

Some of the unfortunate reactions you have encountered might be due to posts like this one, directed at various posters:

These statements put in doubt the other guy's knowledge of the subject, and are either absurd ("made original") or patently wrong ("no diminished value"). They are therefore surprising on the part of a fellow "aficionado".

Cheers,

Julio

P.S: In Memoriam, Ferrari 250 GTE #3787, lovingly restored and enjoyed by yours truly, and now an empty shell, probably gutted to satisfy posing aspirations.

 

All the informations are here:
http://www.pasionalavelocidad.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=181

 

Giotto, that was incredibly quick and perfect. Thank you very much for the pictures and the article. You are further feeding my fantasy of one day writing the story of that GP, obviously centered on the experience of the Ferrari wearing the number 60.

My apologies for the diversion. Now we can go back to the unpleasant subject of this thread.

 

Your uncle in that picture...?
Here are just some sample photos found on the Internet... Or what nobody should do with an old 250 GT.
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I saw this "330GT SPECIAL" (!?) at the Nürburgring in 1985. I would be happy to have the original in my garage, a real 330 GT 2+2 Pininfarina.
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Darolls and others,

I've found the 3 New Zealand cars that were destroyed for replicas: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=140115929&postcount=6

Okay I'm definitely out of this one now.
Pete

 

Sorry but I disagree. The effort goes into research, preparation and execution of the task. A recreation should be accurate or it is not a recreation.

What is one supposed to do if the original body and chassis have both been scrapped due to rust? Would you rather the owner put the engine in a home made kit car or would you rather see it all together, matching numbers in a recreation of a Ferrari?

Also, a GTO engine is a very different kettle of fish to a GT or GTE. 6 Carbs, cams, dry sump for starters and then there are the high compression pistons, large valves etc. A standard engine peaks a lot earlier than 7500rpm.

Likewise I have total respect for anyone with an original, road or track.
Chris

 

Father. He always preffered four cylinders to twelve (unlike myself).

 

That’s brilliant Julio!

I was going to say it looked like a 500 TRC, but our friend beat me to it with the full details, which I certainly didn’t know!

I was only being playful with my earlier post ;o)

 

Thanks.

 

A +25 years old article (Thoroughbred Classic cars magazine - January 1985).
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The ancient greeks were already dealing with the exact same problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

When we discuss replicas, we touch on a profound philosophical issue.

 

But they are not accurate, they could be out by 100mm and nobody would know. Also a heck of a lot of research goes into a proper restoration also.

Have a look at my last post and the cars that are used for replicas. You need to correct your missconception that rusty cars are used for these replicas.

Okay sorry ... gone.
Pete

 

I was talking about my own actual experience. Not hearsay.

 

Just a clarification. It is my understanding that 3787GT was purchased for the engine, which now resides in a legitimate SWB. I believe the owner wants to race, without endangering his matching numbers engine. I am not justifying killing a beautiful GTE, just trying to keep the rumours straight...

 

http://jalopnik.com/5842449/mercifully-the-nuevo+retro-ferrari-f+340-is-a-one+off

 

More here:
http://www.classiccar.co.nz/news-7900/gullwing-america-to-build-one-off-ferrari-f-340-competizione

 

Haven't seen nipples on a car or a while.

 

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