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Never thought i'd own a prewar car.

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  1. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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  2. Simon

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    Lovely. You have great taste in cars sir.
     
  3. Aedo

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    Congrats :)

    Looks terrific!
     
  4. Arvin Grajau

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  5. rdefabri

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    That's a beaut! Real clean - best of luck with it!
     
  6. PSk

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    Beautiful!!!

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  7. Arvin Grajau

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    massive resto just needs some patina and a few stone chips and some oil cover,amazing it has a full undertray covering the diff,drive shaft and chassis.
     
  8. Jedi

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    Absolutely stunning!! I bet it's just a blast to drive.

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  9. Arvin Grajau

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    for 1,075 cc approx its fun,if anything the shockers and leaf springs are to hard.
     
  10. Jedi

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    I would imagine - not exactly a modern suspension for sure. But geez it looks COOL!!!

    :)

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  11. PSk

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    So it's a K3 right?

    Nuvolari drove one of those in the TT I think. What's this cars history?. I assume genuine.

    Very pretty car.
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    RB, you're a true Gearhead. Proud of you, mate.
     
  13. Arvin Grajau

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    you know your cars,history in dispute with another car the old grand dads axe and handle story.
    sad thing is both cars are to valuable to be turned into one.
     
  14. PSk

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    This might make you laugh, but I worked with a guy who was a MG fan and he was making a "replica" of a K3 ... never saw it and have no idea if it was ever finished.

    He had previously restored a TF or T something.
    Pete
     
  15. Arvin Grajau

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    very hard to do as the K cars had a narrower chassis to all other cars,plus the gearbox,supercharger and the just goes on and on would be like trying to make a GTB308 into a 288 GTO
     
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    Beautiful classic!
     
  17. Napolis

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    Fantastic!

    How do you operate shifter?

    Best

    You need a Nigel Shiftright Hat.
     
  18. nathandarby67

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    Yes, I too would like a tutorial on how the shifter works. Do you pop it in, say, 3rd or 4th and then it will go up one gear each time the clutch is depressed? Or does it just go straight to whatever gear you have pre-selected when you depress the clutch?
     
  19. Arvin Grajau

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    you can drive it like a normal car by operating the pedal (no clutch) it works on bands.
    can jump gears ie 2nd to 4th.
    so engage gear then press pedal very fast and smooth.
    depending on the gear your in the pedal length is longer or shorter for the change.
    its a 30s padle shift.
     
  20. nathandarby67

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    So, do they have endless threads on K3chat.com about how often you have to change out your transmission bands? :)

    If there is no clutch, is it just tension (or lack of) on the belts that controls whether power is delivered to the wheels or not? And the non-clutch pedal is what controls this tension? What was the factory's thinking behind this setup at the time? Was it stronger or lighter than a conventional arrangement?

    I just love seeing all the vastly different engineering solutions for "how to operate basic car functions" that the different manufacturers were coming up with in the pre-war years. Now that everything is so standardized, we are left with nothing more to argue about than differences in cupholder deployment and LED vs. HID headlights.
     
  21. PSk

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    Cars with preselector gearboxes have fluid flywheels I think and the gearboxes are very heavy.

    My father had an Armstrong Siddeley which had one of these (and also ball joint front suspension), infact Armstrong Siddeley were the first car manufacturer to use them I believe.

    According to Wikipedia some race cars didn't have a fluid flywheel and just used the bands ... somehow, so it would be interesting to know what the K3 uses?
    Pete
     
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    #23 dbw, Sep 24, 2011
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    ahhh....a good old mg with a "help yourself"gearbox...i had a 1.5 riley with a similar lump...as a mr.p hill told me at a vintage race years ago, "you won't be the fastest car, but will have the most lightening quick shifts!"... as for the springs and shockers(sic) consider yourself lucky...messr bugatti believed springs were for locating the axles..not for the ride..most prewar leaf spring cars took up the movement in the chassis..the old ones do handle better with things tightened up a bit...see "kidney belt" :)


    [must be the super rare "hydraulic brake" option....you must try screaming into turn 3 at laguna seca in a t35b with nothing but a series of braided cables to rely on..the guys that drove these things when they were new were brave indeed!!]
     
  23. Arvin Grajau

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    I'm told there good for 100,000 miles good enough for tanks,buses and ferries.Fab quick change far quicker then any other prewar box,I guess the idea was fast changes fast times.
     
  24. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    heavy box,early cars like mine ran bands and no clutch,latter cars a clutch many cars now run a clutch.
     

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