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Deep Thoughts - Ferrari

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Duane_Estill, Oct 1, 2011.

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  1. Duane_Estill

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    #1 Duane_Estill, Oct 1, 2011
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    What is Ferrari? In the largest possible construal of the word/concept.

    Let's take Ferrari as a Heideggerian "thing-in-the-world" from the man, to the cars, to the mystique, and effect an enthusiast deconstruction of what Ferrari means in the modern world. To examine all the existential manifestations of Ferrari as it pertains to "life-in-the-world." Be sure and make liberal use of dashes so we look like good existentialists. Post-modern revisionism is discouraged. Metaphysical redundancy will suffer the scourge of Occam's Razor. The Platonic Ideal of "The Good" is ultimately hoped for using the Socratic method if we truly "know ourselves," with just a smattering of Berkeleyian "to exist is to be perceived in a Ferrari." We shall abstain from accusing Ferrari of bourgeois exploitation the proletariat as a means of production, and this thread will not collapse under it's own weight. Confucious say "timing belt not changed, Ferrari not go far." The Hegelian dialectic will let us acknowledge that Ferrari is merely an unfolding of the spirit of "performance car and racing passion" whereas Schopenhauer saw it as a material inevitability after Alfa Romeo canned Mr. Ferrari. Whether a Ferrari is just a collection of light waves in a quantum timesliced needs brief consideration but we really want to be classically Newtonian with regards to mass and motion. Relativity will be acknowledged because it is assume that the Earth really moves under the Ferrari though not from our 'frame of reference.' Lastly, no "ises from oughts" and we indeed might be "bundles of perception," as we cast about in our 'web of belief" to reach to Aristotelian categorially necessary cause to to the prime mover of "Enzo Ferrari" Then, in conclusion...."EUREKA!! It's a FERRARI!!"


    Gentleman, start your brains.
     
  2. Mr. V

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  3. WCH

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    We shall not cease from exploration
    And the end of all our exploring
    Will be to arrive where we started
    And if the exploring took less than seven years
    Get free scheduled maintenance.


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  4. Texas Forever

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    You know, it is possible to over think things sometimes.

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  5. Texas Forever

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    Of course, as a young lad, I fell in love with Steppenwolf -- Born to be Wild!

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  6. canadianferrarista

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    Well said.

    Duane, I see by your profile that you have not owned a Ferrari.
    Ferrari is more about evoking feelings, emotions and the enjoyment of the driving experience.
    It may not do anything for some people, but who am I to judge.
    I have owned some various sports car marques in my life, up until now.

    Ferrari has heart & soul.

    I keep getting drawn to the Ferrari marque, because of the whole package of aesthetics, engineering, sound, power and driving experience.

    It is part of "Lifestyle".......not because it is a Ferrari, but of what it evokes with respect to interaction with this marque.
     
  7. Ferrari 360 CS

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    The most simplistic way I can put it is this. Walking up to a Ferrari there is just that special feeling, the senses are teased, quite often there is what I call supermodel styling which makes everything else seem boring. Then there is the sound of the engine, this usually evokes emotion, well it does for me everything I spend time in a Ferrari.

    To drive there is a feeling of being in control of something special but perhaps its the way the whole experience is so vivid that it linger on ones mind for years.
     
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    THANK YOU.

    Finally, someone has figured out how to unite Eliot and Ferrari. This made my day.

    End thread.
     
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    You're welcome. And you should see my James Joyce!
     
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  11. Duane_Estill

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    I didn't know Camus died in a car wreck. Reading his books were a serious pain, I'm not sure I even understood him.
     
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    I'm not much of a thinker. But then again, I have never owned a Ferrari. IMHO they are the most beautifully sculpted car I ever rode in.
     
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    Really? A 100 views since my post and no one got it?
     
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    Duane, people with minds like yours are what set Ferrari above the rest, not that that has the least bit of significance, but the reading and driving are diverting. By the way, you must hail from Greenville.
    quote=Duane_Estill;140859095]What is Ferrari? In the largest possible construal of the word/concept.

    Let's take Ferrari as a Heideggerian "thing-in-the-world" from the man, to the cars, to the mystique, and effect an enthusiast deconstruction of what Ferrari means in the modern world. To examine all the existential manifestations of Ferrari as it pertains to "life-in-the-world." Be sure and make liberal use of dashes so we look like good existentialists. Post-modern revisionism is discouraged. Metaphysical redundancy will suffer the scourge of Occam's Razor. The Platonic Ideal of "The Good" is ultimately hoped for using the Socratic method if we truly "know ourselves," with just a smattering of Berkeleyian "to exist is to be perceived in a Ferrari." We shall abstain from accusing Ferrari of bourgeois exploitation the proletariat as a means of production, and this thread will not collapse under it's own weight. Confucious say "timing belt not changed, Ferrari not go far." The Hegelian dialectic will let us acknowledge that Ferrari is merely an unfolding of the spirit of "performance car and racing passion" whereas Schopenhauer saw it as a material inevitability after Alfa Romeo canned Mr. Ferrari. Whether a Ferrari is just a collection of light waves in a quantum timesliced needs brief consideration but we really want to be classically Newtonian with regards to mass and motion. Relativity will be acknowledged because it is assume that the Earth really moves under the Ferrari though not from our 'frame of reference.' Lastly, no "ises from oughts" and we indeed might be "bundles of perception," as we cast about in our 'web of belief" to reach to Aristotelian categorially necessary cause to to the prime mover of "Enzo Ferrari" Then, in conclusion...."EUREKA!! It's a FERRARI!!"


    Gentleman, start your brains.[/quote]
     
  16. Duane_Estill

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    That's very kind to say, thank you.

    Actually I'm from the top of the state, in extreme Northeastern MS, five minutes from the TN line and 20 minutes from the AL line.

    I've been thinking about Ferrari as it pertains to philosophy for some time. I remember those ..."stuff happens" tee shirts and I love Monty Python's "International Philosophy"....so...there you go.

    Thanks.
     
  17. Crowndog

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    I would have answered Robert Pirsig's question to his students "define quality"....simple, Ferrari. nuf said
     
  18. sammyb

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    1) I own a Ferrari, therefore I am...
    ...all too familiar with melted fuse blocks

    2) If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound?
    Certainly not enough to overcome a Tubi exhaust ten miles away!

    3) The sound of one hand clapping is akin to a 599 downshifting.

    4) If time never ends, then it's possible it never began.
    ...which explains why the labor charges on the last Ferrari service bill is so high.

    5) Freewill is what separates man from beast, but doesn't explain why beasts choose to buy Lamborghinis.

    6) Man is born tabula rasa -- the blank slate...the Ferrari owner fills his slate quickly with PM addresses of Fchat buddies when things start breaking.

    7) The human-diety relationship can be broken into four types: those who understand there is no god, those who need to believe there is a god, those who think they are god, and those who own a Ferrari and find themselves at full throttle screaming "oh god!"

    8) If the essence of man is to pursue the truth, then achieving this is best done in a really fast Italian car.

    9) Man is naturally good, but creating black plastic switchgear that gets warped and sticky is pure evil.

    10) To speak the truth keeps man's relationship with the devine true. To find a way to prevent Ferrari exhaust headers from cracking keeps his bank account full.
     
  19. Duane_Estill

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    I love it.

    The 'does anyone hear the tree fall' is a perennial joke associated with philosophy, it crossed my mind, but I couldn't think of a suitable application.....but you did very well.
     
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    Duane,
    I thought of a #11 today:

    11) Space and time are infinite...but when it comes to accessing and removing items in a Ferrari engine bay, only time is infinite, for space is extremely restricted.
     
  21. Duane_Estill

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    That reminds me of Aristotle.

    "Nature abhors a vacuum"

    The engine compartment of an X1/9 is a black hole.
     

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