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Discussion in 'Challenge/GT Cars/Track' started by Andi355, Oct 12, 2011.

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  1. Andi355

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    Hi guys,

    I am looking for a F355 Challenge car.

    Who can help me ?

    Thanks

    Andi
     
  2. johnhoughtaling

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    When you find it, come Ferrari challenge racing with the FCRA. We have a great 355 class.
     
  3. NbyNW

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  4. jakermc

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  5. Dr_ferrari

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    I have two clients with cars for sale. let me know if you are interestd and I will give you their contact information.

    Regards, Jim
     
  6. Andi355

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    Anyone else who can help me ?

    I really need a F355 Challenge car contemporary !
    It should be a car with no major damage and should have
    a little history (driven in the American Challenge Series or driven by a famous driver).

    Thanks

    Andi
     
  7. TexasKid

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  8. Andi355

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    No, not the car I go for !

    As I mentioned before, I am looking for a 355c, used in one of the famous race series.
    It should be a "cult-vehicle" and not street-legal.

    Thanks for your help

    Andi
     
  9. jakermc

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    How is this a Challenge car? It does not have all the parts associated with a Challenge car build. It's neither a factory build nor full dealer conversion.
     
  10. Aircon

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    How can you know that?
     
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  12. jakermc

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    Should we start with the fact that there is no roll cage? Or the fact that it has a stock steering wheel with an air bag? Racing harnesses? This is a street car, not a race car.
     
  13. Aircon

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    It doesn't say it's a race car...it says it's a 355ch, and it looks the same as mine. My roll cage, fire extinguisher and Carbon seat are sitting in the garage. In fact, read the description.

    A little knowledge.........
     
  14. jakermc

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    We are talking about cars built to compete in the 355 Challenge Racing series, correct? I don't remember the 355 having a Stradale version. :)

    So what makes a Challenge car a Challenge car? My understanding is that the factory started with a street car and then a number of parts were changed either at the factory or with a kit by the dealer. Earlier cars were converted by dealers and the later ones done at the factory. The conversion parts included:

    Faster steering rack
    Extra engine oil cooler
    Gearbox oil cooler
    Bigger brakes
    Speedline/"Challenge" wheels
    Rear spoiler
    Different springs and bushings
    Racing clutch system
    Roll cage mounting plates and competition seat belt mountings welded inthe chassis/body
    Roll cage
    Challenge rear grill
    Challenge exhaust and heatshield
    Removal of floor carpet
    Battery isolator in centre console
    Larger radiator thermo-fans
    Intake heat shields

    If the complete kit was never installed, maybe you have a car that was intended to become a Challenge car but never actually converted into one? IMO, a VIN number does not make it a Challene car, its the parts that get added to the car that change it from a street car into a Challenge RACE car. A street car with a Challenge VIN without the Challenge parts is no different than a street car. A number plate and a kill switch does not improve performance as the factory intended.
     
  15. Aircon

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    *shakes head*
     
  16. johnhoughtaling

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    #16 johnhoughtaling, Oct 15, 2011
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    FYI

    We expect the 355 class to grow considerably in 2012.

    The FCRA is getting new registrants every week.

    In my opinion the 355C is a real classic. The last Ferrari that could theoretically be driven to the track and raced and driven home. Franco drives his to work in Houston. He loves it and wil likely never sell it.

    And as Onofrio, Rob and Greg have proven, a well driven 355C can run mid field in the races. If you have any doubt about how much fun you can have with a 355 in the FCRA, look at Robs videos in the FCRA section. And incredible value. With the 355C, you can buy a racing Ferrari for 55-65k and race in an FCRA Ferrari challenge race against 30-40 other Ferraris in front of 100,000 spectators! See Sebring 12 hour support race, FCRA 2012.

    With a great racing venue that is gaining a lot of steam, I expect these cars to increase in value soon.
     
  17. MRF40@yahoo.com

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    like whut? Ralph??
    please email me any information!!!
     
  18. wrxmike

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    I guessing it's news to you that you don't own a 355 Challenge car ?

    M
     
  19. Llenroc

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    #19 Llenroc, Oct 18, 2011
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    That car in the photo is a challenge car without all of kit installed. The photos are limited but what is shown tells me it is a CH. If you look at the photo of the engine compartment the cover between the air boxes, there is no hole for the bypass valve in the upper exhaust only the challenge cars used that panel with no hole because there was no bypass valve. Also the hoses that connect to the air boxes look like dryer vent hose, also specific to the CH. It has the CH brakes which would be very expensive to add to a road car and definintly not sometime you would change just to fake a CH, then there are the tow hooks which back in the day were $400.00 each again why do this to fake a CH. there just isn't real monetary valve to be gained by buying these parts to add a road car.
     
  20. Llenroc

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    your list is missing a lot parts there were the following: quick release fuel lines, HD bearing in clutch housing, Magnesium clutch housing, upper exhaust Ypipe with no cats in it, gas tank filler neck unleaded block valve, wiring harness was specific to he CH, bumpers were Euro spec units, tow hooks frt and rear, rear under body panels have NACA ducts for brake cooling, sway bars, links and shocks were CH specific, Engine and suspension ECUs have seals on them, head lights covers were blank/empty, heat sheids under the airboxes, HD motor mounts, fan shrouds on the radiators, thermostat block off, oil recovery tanks, clutch housing cooling duct, rock guards for cam belt covers, doors screens to stop tire rubber from getting into the radiators. Probably missing something but don't have the challenge book in frt of me at the moment
     
  21. wrxmike

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    #21 wrxmike, Oct 19, 2011
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    100% Correct

    Perhaps add as well "at the time the photo was taken".


    BTW There are several F355 Challenge cars in Australia that have had the roll cages unbolted, harnesses removed and standard seats fitted and registered for road use. Easy to bolt the other bits back in if you want...... makes a fun road car.

    Pretty much the same as the car in the photo.

    M
     
  22. wrxmike

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    That pretty much covers it,
    BTW the Ricambi website http://www.ricambiamerica.com/parts_catalogs.php?M=FE&V=model&I=45
    shows all the parts that are changed to make a 355C. Most people don't realize the extent of the changes, and even if one could find all the parts, it would be cost prohibitive to convert a 355 in to a 355C

    M
     
  23. Ira Schwartz

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    I'm interested in a 355CH with a title (i.e., a '95 US version). Please advise. THANKS.
     
  24. PAUL. S

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    I think some of the posters need to realise that the ferraris for sale on that website are from the the Sultan of Brunei collection, and he did not tend to dabble in fakes, ferrari supplied him whatever he demanded including right hand drive F40s, so if its being sold as a challenge car then thats what it is.
     
  25. bobzdar

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    Haven't they also been sitting for the last 10 years with the a/c turned off (in the desert) and not run at all in at least 5 years? There's an article by Sheehan where he went to see about importing some of the cars 5 or 6 years ago and they were already turning to goo due to the lack of climate control then...Maybe some of the cars actually got out and it's taken this long to get the paperwork on them (that was the big issue then)?
     

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