Fabspeed parts made in Taiwan?

Well, your doggie must have been on vacation when the first mounting brackets for your 360 exhaust were being designed and manufactured. You have supposedly fixed this though.

We would love to see more videos and dyno and weight tests from your company. Tunnel runs are appreciated. Dyno videos are nice, but hearing the cars on the street is better IMO.

 

Cool dog! Now to change topics a bit, when will there be 4-2-1 headers (preferably insulated) for the 360? And with the forgiving mounts?

 

The second pic in shows capristo`s exhaust blankets. They do look very nice but not sure how good they work. but is promising for exhaust insulation.

Regards, Jim

 

@Toni: Great posting! Very nice stuff and beautifull dog!

 

Hello Mattyrae

95% of our raw materials are bought in Germany.
the remaining 5% will be purchased abroad.
Production 100% in Germany.
German companies want to produce large quantities only, so we had to buy flanges in China and Taiwan.





we make the drawing, send them on supplier, 6 weeks later we get first prototypes.
no one can make Kasting parts themselves?

we edit them on accuracy. China and Taiwan, they have problems with accuracy. with our supplier that was so.

Now our product is made ​​in Taiwan?

excuse my English, I translated with Google Translator, I hope you understand

Antonio

 

Hello Mattyrae,
as the 360 ​​came on the market, Joshi was not yet born.
Joshi then has come, then we had to change the mount!
He has commanded us.
Antonio

 

Antonio, many thanks for taking the time to post a quick summary of your production methods, great pictures of your machinery and a detailed explanation of where parts are purchased. You haven't tried to skirt the production processes and have explained what you do completely in house and what you have to get done elsewhere.

Great products and no hype.

 

I still have something to say what I want to say.
I had written before about 4 days in German and had it translated by Martin.

those were just my thoughts.

Antonio

Hello to all of you,



I am sorry for interfering in this matter. I have received an e-mail stating that SteVan has been banned in the forum. I think this to be a great loss for all the readers of the Ferrari Chat, however,

obviously not for the forum moderator , otherwise he would not have been banned.



Many reader have expressed SteVan would favourite the company Capristo and for this reason he would talk about FB.. Therefore I have decided to tell you my experiences and my

opinion on this subject. I would like to know the world that the matter is different, because it would be unfair toward SteVan and all the readers believing in SteVan`s articles.



SteVan is a reader who did not deserve being thrown out of the forum, but even had to be paid to make future activities in the forum. The forum readers are dependent on such persons, who

reveal their experiences and to let others benefit from the articles. It should be an exchange of experiences and sharing one’s knowledge with other peoples. Exactly that was made by SteVan

in an active way and then he will be punished for that? I am sorry, I do not want to protect SteVan, but just disclosing my opinion on this matter.



We were contacted by SteVan about 5 -6 months ago for the first time (I never heard from him before) and he asked us for some more detailed information on our headers. For this reason we

sent him some pictures and charges. He doubted everything. He told us to be an engineer and would deal with this matter. He informed that he is of the opinion that we had faked the charts

available with us and just so the correction factors. He told us to be a betrayer. I can put this e-mail to the disposal of everybody who does not believe in what I am writing. Consequently, no one

can say that SteVan liked the Capristo products. I had a phone conversation with the manufacturer of our dynamometer and asked them to have a look at SteVan`s e-mail and to inform us

in writing whether or not the engine test stand is to be manipulated. The manufacturer of the dynamometer replied to us that no one can influence in a manual way the correction factor.



Then I forwarded this information to SteVan and told us that he can come and see us at any time and convince himself on this subject. StefVan reported on this matter in the forum and that he

would check it personally.



For the readers of the forum he drove 1500 km with his F430, instructed us to rebuild his headers. At first I explained the engine test stand to him. I told him that it is possible to manipulate

every dynamometer. Firstly I demonstrated how to manipulate the engine test stand enabling him to check that nothing was manipulated.



The car was tested in the series condition, than the car was reconverted and tested again. All the time he was present and watched all the activities thoroughly. Afterwards another test was

carried out and he convinced himself of this increase in power. Then he reported step by step in the FerrariChat on this matter.





We have proven towards SteVan that we do not betray any one and that we keep our promises. He has been sure of us and that is what he forwards to the readers of the FerrariChat.



Would have been there any negative results for our company, so SteVan would have reported negative facts on Capristo. In such a case I had to assume the responsibility for that and why

should I have been angry with SteVan then? Only for telling the truth?



I regret, but in my opinion SteVan did not sympathize with Capristo, but with a product that he has assured himself of and adheres to what he promised.



Now SteVan found out about Fabspeed that at least a part of their products originate from Taiwan and not, as advertised manufactured by Fabspeed itself.



Who has published wrong facts? FB. or SteVan? Who was punished, the one who told the truth or the other one?



If the results of the tests, for which SteVan came to Germany, would had proven to be negative and he had reported on them, what should I have done in such a case?

Should I had complaint about this with the FerrariChat and claiming a punishment for him? That would not have been correctly, I cannot hold other peoples responsible for my mistakes.



I do not think it bad that FB. products originate from Taiwan, finally the only aspect is that the customer is satisfied with the product. The company JIM TECHNOLOGY manufactures

high quality products and can be proud of them. But I do not think it to be correct (also not towards the right manufacturers) to gloat about the skills of others and pretending to manufacture

the products oneself. This mistake was not made by SteVan.



Anyway I think it to be a mistake that a manufacturer publishes articles for offering his products. It is a matter of course that the manufacturer represents his own interests and tells that his

product is the best one available in the market. Judging a product should be left to the consumers and they should exchange their experiences. But a manufacturer should never write any

articles about his own products in a forum, because I do not believe that a manufacturer will reveal any weak points of his product..…or??? The end user makes this. And a forum is dependent on

all the experiences made by SteVan as he did……. As a result he was punished. So should he not share his knowledge with other persons? In such a case a forum is useless. A manufacturer should

make advertising to call the attention of potential customers to his products. Should he find out that a reply on technical matters is required, he can submit the comment.



Just a summary. Capristo and FB. are not competitors, at least in my opinion. For me, Capristo Exhaust is a hobby that I do with passion. Since 1989 Capristo has been dealing in quite different

sectors. We also offered FB our assistance if required by them, as for example exhaust valves, heat protectors and all they had requested from us. I would have never done this in case

that I think FB. to be a competitor of Capristo.



For this reason please do not think that Capristo likes to see that FB. is facing a problem. The market is big enough for all of us. Every day new companies are set up and the best of them

will survive. The best may win independent on whether he is located in China, Taiwan, Europe or the USA.


Antonio

 

Well, facts have been told.

I enjoy reading it very much.

Hope this will end soon, and stef will come back and join us again.

 

Rob,

I've written four days before Stevan was re-activated. Those were my thoughts, has changed with the reactivation.

I was also sent to Stefan. I wanted to ask whether he agrees when I talk about his person.

I think everyone should forget everything, so everything is back like it was.

Antonio

 

I am glad he is unbanned. Don't really want to see anyone banned for that manner. I was just upset that he focused strictly on Fabspeed, and not other exhaust manufactures too.

 

LOL, very funny response. I have talked with you once before. Look forward to talking to you again in the future if I decide to make any changes to my Ferrari.

 

After Reading antonio from capristo`s account (post #183), one little point came to me.

Please correct me If I read incorrectly but sounded like this:

Stevan accused capristo of the same issue. he did this by e-mail direct to capristo who then defended their product to him, invited him to see the process, etc.....

At this point stevan was satisfied with antonio`s explanation and after stevan was convinced of product quality and performance he then reported his findings on f-chat.

My question is, why did he not proceed in this manner when dealing with Fabspeed?

Why did he have to bait Jeff from fabspeed? why could he just have done the same thing.

As far as I read it, Stevan never openly accused capristo of wrongful advertising like he did with Fabspeed.

Regards, Jim

 

I dunno, but maybe it has something to do with Pennsylvania being a heck of a lot farther from Switzerland than Germany?

I must say, all of this has been interesting reading. Almost a soap opera.

 

Perhaps the informercials on F'chat became too much, and the latest "hand-built in the USA" thread was the famous last drop that made the cup run over...

 

After reading through this thread this is about the only acceptable option at this point. I always knew stuff was marked up big time, but nearly 4x the price is just robbery.

I think I will go back and look at agency power headers. I doubt i'll ever buy from fabspeed after this unless they do some serious price reductions.

 

First Rifledriver then Tazandjan and now Stefvan -- we are losing quality posters at an alarming rate. Let's hope he comes back, he's been a huge honest asset to all of us Ferrari 360/430 owners on this forum...

 

What? What happened to Rifledriver and Tazandjan?

 

Ever bought a beer at a hotel in New York? So 12 times markup is ok then?

 

They're both gone...

 

I miss Taz, he is over at ***********. He is the God of remote fob programming.

 

Well then, go "visit" him over there.

No reason you cannot plant your feet firmly in both worlds.