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  1. sinbad

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    #1 sinbad, Nov 1, 2011
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    Well... here is another DIY project. Since I've learned a lot from all of the posts on how to, I thought I should contribute to this sight with my experience, and hopefully get some helpful information on things that may be challenging. I am not a mechanic, and this will be my first restore project. But I am not afraid to venture into the unknown. The rewards are priceless.I will be posting pictures as I go. Here's one to get things going.

    My car is a 1975 308 GT4. I do have one question. Where can I get information on torque specifications?
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  2. gerritv

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    #2 gerritv, Nov 1, 2011
  3. open roads

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    #3 open roads, Nov 1, 2011
    Wow sinbad. These cars are just incredibly underated. I'd love to have one.

    Best wishes.
     
  4. Dr Kananga

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    #4 Dr Kananga, Nov 1, 2011
    Well, hello there neighbor!

    Feel free to ask me any and all questions you might have throughout the process.

    I won't have the answers, but you should have AT LEAST one person to hear your questions.


    Sent from my iPhone
    (which probably means I'm sitting at my car confused)
     
  5. greggbferrari

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    #5 greggbferrari, Nov 1, 2011
    Good luck, and I look forward to seeing progress. Maybe at the end of all of these threads we can cobble together a GT4-specific set of repair pages.
    Gregg
     
  6. joe k

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    #6 joe k, Nov 1, 2011
    Congratulations. I'll look on with much anticipation. Enjoy.
     
  7. sinbad

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    #7 sinbad, Nov 1, 2011
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    Wow... I love you people... Thank you for the warm welcome, and I hope I don't dissapoint. And Thank you Gerrit for the info. There is some great information. Well, before we start, here she is and her house. I actually built up the garage before I bought the car. And when I drove her in, It was fantastic.
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  8. sinbad

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    #8 sinbad, Nov 2, 2011
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    Here are some shots of 36 years of neglect.
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  9. sinbad

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    #9 sinbad, Nov 2, 2011
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  10. GT4 Joe

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    #10 GT4 Joe, Nov 2, 2011
    Wow Sinbad! You've got some pretty big huevos to take all those parts off of your car all at once! I prefer to take on smaller projects on mine that I know I can complete in a reasonable amount of time, and it still seems to take forever. Your car looks to be a worthwile project. Please keep posting pics. I loved the one of the mouse-chewed tennis ball. Where did you find it? I probably have one in my GT4 too!
     
  11. JeremyJon

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    #11 JeremyJon, Nov 2, 2011
    fantastic......and the garage is amazing :)

    the control arms are like my old mustangs LOL
    i ended up using a product rust-mort (basically muriatic acid) to stop the rust and the pitting of the steel, it worked the best IMO then primed and painted the parts, with no rust through after
    for the heavy grease, i used sometimes diesel + mr.clean, and also simple-green worked well, once the heavy crap was scrapped off

    good luck, love to see it when all completed
     
  12. sinbad

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    #12 sinbad, Nov 2, 2011
    Joe, I know what you mean. But sometimes the madness takes over, you go nuts. Plus I wanted to do everything at once. You know, the parts talk to each other. And I don't want the brakes looking at the newly painted A-arms, with those beautiful new bushings, next to the majestic towering new shocks, and be jealous. And who know, if they get in a really bad mood, they just might do something crazy. Besides, I am down there, I MIGHT AS WELL.
    The ball was between the spare tire compartment and the undercarriage.
    Garnet, Thanks for the tip. Going to look into it.
     
  13. thecarreaper

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    #13 thecarreaper, Nov 2, 2011
    Marvel Mystery oil and kerosene mixed 50/50 works great as a degreaser and is much less likely to cause a fire. be sure not to leave solvent soaked rags in any large piles as they can combust and burn .
     
  14. sinbad

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    #14 sinbad, Nov 2, 2011
    Thank you! There is a lot of caked-on grease down there, I'm going to need all the help I can get.
     
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    #15 davem, Nov 2, 2011
    Love the garage! Best of luck on the journey.
     
  16. sinbad

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    #16 sinbad, Nov 3, 2011
    Thank you! The MIGHT AS WELL is starting to kick in.
     
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    #17 maurice70, Nov 5, 2011
    Amazing garage...l did the same with my GT4 although l did the front first..then after that was completed l did the rear.Will you be replacing the shocks?The fronts are readily abailable as they are the same as GTB/S but the rears are NLA,which means you will have to get them overhauled.
     
  18. sinbad

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    #18 sinbad, Nov 17, 2011
    Thank you maurice70! I am going with QA1s. Wanted to go with something more up to date in that area.
     
  19. sinbad

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    #19 sinbad, Nov 17, 2011
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    A little progress. Here I was going to send it out to get it rebuilt, but decided to do it myself.
    The disassembly was pretty simple. Once you remove the C-clip, and the screw from the secondary chamber (see picture) everything should slide out.
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  20. sinbad

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    #20 sinbad, Nov 17, 2011
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    Here I also decided to do it myself. The rack was in pretty good condition. There was no play, and no wear on the gears. So I decided to clean it up and repack it with new grease. I used Redline CV-2 grease. I rigged up a serange that my Dad had a supply of when after his surgery he had to feed himself with a serange through his stomach. I knew it will come in handy some day. Again, the disassembly was pretty simple. In my opinion this is the only time to remove the steering rack, with everything off. Otherwise it could be a nightmare.
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  21. sinbad

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    #21 sinbad, Nov 17, 2011
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    Taped it off, and sent it to sandblasting. I like the look of raw metal, so I used KBS clear after using wire brush wheel. Their products are pretty good against rust.
    http://www.kbs-coatings.com/ Pack everything really good.
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  22. sinbad

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    #22 sinbad, Nov 17, 2011
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    I used one of these clips from Home Depot that actually work pretty good. I also used two aircraft tie straps, that you can't get anywhere accept at this amazing place in Burbank CA called Luky's. http://lukyshardware.com/ She has the most amazing assortment of aircraft hardware, and every kinds of nuts and bolts that you can think of. These straps have a stainless steal clip on the inside. You kind of can see it in the picture.
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  23. sinbad

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    #23 sinbad, Nov 17, 2011
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    Here are a few shots. I wanted to make sure that she had a nice place to come home to.
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  24. miketuason

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    #24 miketuason, Nov 18, 2011
    Excellent work on the rack and pinion and Love the garage:)
     
  25. sinbad

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    #25 sinbad, Nov 18, 2011
    Thank you Mike!
     
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