Paterno retiring at end of season. It's sad on several different levels.......
Paterno retiring at end of season. It's sad on several different levels.... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204358004577027923277309662.html?mod=djemalertNEWS Grand Jury Report.... http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf
Im only sad that JoPa isnt going to be sodomized by someone in a position of trust. The man sickens me.
The biggest reason it's sad is because, for example, a 10 year old boy was sodomized in the shower. It's sad because people in power did nothing to protect people who have no power. I could go on. I have two boys and if one of my boys had this happened to him I would be facing a murder charge.
Timeline snippet; Mr. Paterno, 84, major-college football's all-time wins leader, had come under widespread criticism for how he responded to learning of an alleged incident involving former assistant Jerry Sandusky and a child in 2002. Mr. Sandusky, a Penn State coach from 1969 to 1999, has been charged with 21 felony counts of sexually abusing eight boys over a period of 15 years. He has maintained that he is innocent of the charges. Upon hearing of the incident from an eyewitness, a Penn State graduate assistant, Mr. Paterno reported it to school officials but not to police, according to state prosecutors. Although Mr. Paterno hasn't been charged in the case, Pennsylvania State Police Commissioner Frank Noonan has suggested there was a "moral responsibility" to contact police about potential sexual abuse involving children. ____________ Paterno learned of the incidents 3 years after the assistant departed from his staff. He reported it to school officials. I would speculate that school officials told Joe Paterno to keep it quiet, and not the other way around. As such, IMHO - It was then incumbent upon school officials to take it further, as the ball was in their hands thereafter, not JP's.
Wax, could not disagree more. If an eye witness, who is my graduate assistant, told me, "Coach Sandusky was sodomizing a 10 year old boy in the shower....", the first thing I would do is CALL THE POLICE!!
And if you were the one who witnessed it, and reported it to your boss who did nothing? Would you just leave it at that, or go to the police? All parties involved failed on some level. Easier to blame the higher ups, than the one who witnessed the account first hand.
Somehow, the victim gets "blamed" in this sad chain of events and who's-who, but, bear with me, as this is who-what I understand [and I don't understand much, really] to be the case; Criminal, Employee of School 3 years before fact revealed to Recipient of Second-hand news. Victim Eyewitness, at time and place, revealed incident to Recipient of Second-hand news 3 years after the fact. Reported disturbing news shortly thereafter. Recipient of Second-hand information and, in this case, most high-profile Employee of School, received news about former department assistant 3 years after the fact, and notified School Authorities thereafter. School Authorities, by virtue of their authority and upon whom, once notified of news, be they second-hand or otherwise, are responsible for in-house incidents to be investigated, signed, sealed and delivered and by whom matters requiring police investigation should be cooperatively submitted . . . Or tell all parties to keep a lid on it.
Your post confused me. What I was trying to say, is the graduate assistant who witnessed the incident (in 2002) and told Paterno the next day. Shouldn't have considered that to be sufficent resolution in the matter; merely a professional courtsey, and notified police or child protective services at the State as well. The mere fact that he didn't do that, shows he was complicit in the cover up of the thing. The graduate assistant (now reciever's coach) should also be resigning....
Okie-dokie - bear in mind, I don't know much. BUT - This, and "chain of command" is the only "angle" I am using in Paterno's "defense" in regard to the 2002 incident, as you have corrected me on - Was Sandusky off of Paterno's staff as of 1999?
In case anyone's wondering - I'm not into Hero worship - nor am I trying to be "right" - BUT - reading the whole timeline - How is Joe Paterno the guiltiest-by-association man in the room? http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7212054/key-dates-penn-state-nittany-lions-sex-abuse-case Sandusky, Penn State case timeline A chronological look at the case against former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky, based on a grand jury report in Pennsylvania state court. Some key dates in Penn State football history are included. Sandusky has been charged with 40 criminal counts, accusing him of serial sex abuse of minors: 1969 Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as a defensive line coach. 1977 Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows into a charity dedicated to helping children with absent or dysfunctional families. January 1983 Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football's national champion for the 1982 season. January 1987 Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football's national champion for the 1986 season. 1994 Boy known as Victim 7 in the report meets Sandusky through The Second Mile program at about the age of 10. 1994-95 Boy known as Victim 6 meets Sandusky at a Second Mile picnic at Spring Creek Park when he is 7 or 8 years old. 1995-96 Boy known as Victim 5, meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is 7 or 8, in second or third grade. 1996-97 Boy known as Victim 4, at the age of 12 or 13, meets Sandusky while he is in his second year participating in The Second Mile program. 1996-98 Victim 5 is taken to the locker rooms and showers at Penn State by Sandusky when he is 8 to 10 years old. Jan. 1, 1998 Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky's wife, as a member of Sandusky's family party for the 1998 Outback Bowl. 1998 Victim 6 is taken into the locker rooms and showers when he is 11 years old. When Victim 6 is dropped off at home, his hair is wet from showering with Sandusky. His mother reports the incident to the university police, who investigate. Detective Ronald Schreffler testifies that he and State College Police Department Detective Ralph Ralston, with the consent of the mother of Victim 6, eavesdrop on two conversations the mother of Victim 6 has with Sandusky. Sandusky says he has showered with other boys and Victim 6's mother tries to make Sandusky promise never to shower with a boy again but he will not. At the end of the second conversation, after Sandusky is told he cannot see Victim 6 anymore, Schreffler testifies Sandusky says, "I understand. I was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness. I know I won't get it from you. I wish I were dead." Jerry Lauro, an investigator with the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare, testifies he and Schreffler interviewed Sandusky, and that Sandusky admits showering naked with Victim 6, admits to hugging Victim 6 while in the shower and admits that it was wrong. The case is closed after then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar decides there will be no criminal charge. June 1999 Sandusky retires from Penn State but still holds emeritus status. Dec. 28, 1999 Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky's wife, as a member of Sandusky's family party for the 1999 Alamo Bowl. Summer 2000 Boy known as Victim 3 meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is between seventh and eighth grade. Fall 2000 A janitor named James Calhoun observes Sandusky in the showers of the Lasch Football Building with a young boy, known as Victim 8, pinned up against the wall, performing oral sex on the boy. He tells other janitorial staff immediately. Fellow Office of Physical Plant employee Ronald Petrosky cleans the showers at Lasch and sees Sandusky and the boy, who he describes as being between the ages of 11 and 13. Calhoun tells other physical plant employees what he saw, including Jay Witherite, his immediate supervisor. Witherite tells him to whom he should report the incident. Calhoun was a temporary employee and never makes a report. Victim 8's identity is unknown. March 1, 2002 A Penn State graduate assistant enters the locker room at the Lasch Football Building. In the showers, he sees a naked boy, known as Victim 2, whose age he estimates to be 10 years old, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant tells his father immediately. March 2, 2002 In the morning, the graduate assistant calls coach Joe Paterno and goes to Paterno's home, where he reports what he has seen. March 3, 2002 Paterno calls Tim Curley, Penn State athletic director to his home the next day and reports a version of what the grad assistant had said. March 2002 Later in the month the graduate assistant is called to a meeting with Curley and senior vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz. The grad assistant reports what he has seen and Curley and Schultz say they will look into it. March 27, 2002 (approximate) The graduate assistant hears from Curley. He is told that Sandusky's locker room keys are taken away and that the incident has been reported to The Second Mile. The graduate assistant is never questioned by university police and no other entity conducts an investigation until the graduate assistant testifies in grand jury in December 2010. 2005-2006 Boy known as Victim 1 says that he meets Sandusky through The Second Mile at age 11 or 12. Spring 2007 During the 2007 track season, Sandusky begins spending time with Victim 1 weekly, having him stay overnight at his residence in College Township, Pa. Spring 2008 Termination of contact with Victim 1 occurs when he is a freshman in a Clinton County high school. After the boy's mother calls the school to report sexual assault, Sandusky is barred from the school district attended by Victim 1 from that day forward and the matter is reported to authorities as mandated by law. Early 2009 An investigation by the Pennsylvania attorney general begins when a Clinton County, Pa., teen boy tells authorities that Sandusky has inappropriately touched him several times over a four-year period. September 2010 Sandusky retires from day-to-day involvement with The Second Mile, saying he wants to spend more time with family and handle personal matters. March 2011 Harrisburg (Pa.) Patriot-News reports that grand jury is investigating Sandusky on allegations of indecent assault against a teenage boy. The Patriot-News reports that five people with knowledge of the case said the grand jury has been meeting for 18 months and has called witnesses including Paterno and Curley. Penn State declines comment. Nov. 5, 2011 Sandusky is arrested and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts. Nov. 7, 2011 Pennsylvania Attorney General Linda Kelly says Paterno is not a target of the investigation into how the school handled the accusations. But she refuses to say the same for university president Graham Spanier. Curley and Schultz, who have stepped down from their positions, surrender on charges that they failed to alert police to complaints against Sandusky. Nov. 8, 2011 Possible ninth victim of Sandusky contacts state police as calls for ouster of Paterno and Spanier grow in state and beyond. Penn State abruptly cancels Paterno's regular weekly press conference. Nov. 9, 2011 Paterno announces he'll retire at the end of the season.
Paterno and the grad asst. now receivers coach should have called the police. There isn't a chain of command at a university, it isn't the military, and even if it was morally if he isn't a senile old dunce he should have told the grad asst to call the cops or better yet call them together. Instead he helped cover up for his buddy "the ole defensive coordinator" and rewarded the grad asst with a asst coaching job for keeping his mouth shut. The pediphile was still on campus as of a couple of weeks ago from what I hear. Paterno needs to go as does the whole administration at that sinking ship from the president on down to the poor guy who had to mop those showers.
Outside of the scandalous behavior we're somewhat aware of, I've seen this very type of communication>promotion happen elsewhere, so this scenario I'll impart is as familiar a tale as any Tragedy or Opera. What *possibly/plausibly/probably* transpired is that after the Figurehead of the Nittany Lions, Joe Paterno called Tim Curley - Curley contacted School Administrators, who then told Curley and Paterno the school been down this road in '98, and DA had dropped the charges. ^And^ perhaps what then *possibly/plausibly/probably* transpired was the Graduate Assistant being strongly "suggested" by Curley and Administration.
and this is where Paterno did himself in, he didn't personally call the police when the administration sat on their hands. Because they had been down this road in 98 is precisely why they then should have been screaming it from the highest mountain.
That's quite a tale. But setting aside the fiction written above, here are the facts from the Grand Jury Report: Fact: Paterno's graduate assistant was an eye witness to a hideous crime. Fact: The crime occurred in the Penn State locker room. Fact: The crime was the rape and sodomizing a 10 year old boy. Fact: The man sodomizing and raping the boy was Paterno's long time colleague. Fact: The graduate assistant told Paterno about the crime. Fact: Neither the graduate assistant nor Joe Paterno called the police.
interesting other note, the DA Ray Frank Gricar went missing in 2005 only to find a few personal affects, car and not a body... http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sports/ncaafootball/questions-on-sandusky-wrapped-in-2005-gricar-mystery.html
PSU is having a 10pm presser tonight. Spanier resigning, Tom Bradley taking over as interim coach from here on out. This is according to Philly's CBS affiliate.
Sandusky's wife is mentioned all over the place - she didn't call cops either. Aside from that; Not trying to win & know it'd be a losing battle if I was, but, I just don't see how this was all on the Head Coach, as there is no evidence presented he was aware of this until 3 years after Sandusky was retired. Beyond that, there is a hierarchy that has to be followed, etc..
he is officially out: http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7214380/joe-paterno-president-graham-spanier-penn-state
No one is putting it all on coach, he's just one of many that will have some uncomfortable conversations in the presence of law enforcement and their lawyers in the near future... Fed's seem to want to have a look at things as well... http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/11/09/penn-state-under-federal-scrutiny-over-sex-scandal/
