I've just been in contact with Will Falconer at Fastcarspares. The £900 price includes vat for UK buyers. The $1210 price does not include vat for US buyers. Apparently Yokahama import only around 20 or less of these tyres per shipment of which he is taking about half. New stock arrives in January.
The 800 was without vat. 1210 is not as bad a deal for two... still more, but everything has gone up in value/price You are correct about the tecnos vs campys. However, as another said there are some Jalpas with campys on them. I have one car with each brand. I remember some one maybe Glen at ILR (not sure though as it was a while ago) saying that camp bought tecno or vice versa and that the only difference was the name stamped on them. Can anybody confirm?
I bought my Yokos from an English Chap that lives in London and in Spain. He has a few different businesses and I have not seen him on any of the board recently. He bought and shipped them before I could even pay him. A very nice guy and sold they to me at his cost from Yoko direct.
I don't know if this helps but it is interesting. This is an old email of mine on Bravos. Please allow me to clear up the confusion. The Bravo wheel is typically just a name used to describe the early Campagnolo 'style' of telephone dial wheel. Since Campagnolo made the prototype wheel for the one and only Bravo show car that, unfortunately, never made it into production they already had a design made. When Urraco was updated to the Silhouette, Lamborghini commisioned Campagnolo to make a series sets of the Bravo or Bravo style wheel to fit the car that was to take the fight to Ferrari's 308. Once these original 'telephone dial' or '5 cylinder' wheels were fitted to the production Silhouette, many started referring to them, appropriately, as Silhouette Wheels. This was 1976 as you know. When Walter Wolf convinced the factory to make changes (flares,P7's,Bravo style wheels, suspension changes, etc.) into a production reality, it was only natural the factory stick with this style of wheel much like Ferrari had stuck with, and was known by, the 5 spoke wheel of their production cars. While these Campagnolo Bravo wheels that were fitted to the production Silhouettes and early low body Countach S were cosmetically (especially from the outside) identical, their offset and width varied. The Silhouette used 8 x 15 in the front and 11 x 15 in the rear. The Countach S used 8.5x 15 in the front and 12 x 15 in the rear. The reason Bravo wheels' demise? Lamborghini went into receivership after only 52 (or some say 55, or whatever) Silhouettes were made and the Campagnolo factory had a huge fire rendering it unable to continue to manufacture wheels. This why Lamborghini later commissioned OZ to design and manufacture a wheel that was a variation on the 5 cylinder theme. This wheel, of course, saw duty on the Countach until the Anniversario debuted in 1989 . It was made of aluminum and not the lighter, more fragile and more expensive magnesium. When the decision was made by Chrysler to axe the Jalpa, someone at the factory ask the question. What do we do with all these left-over Silhouette wheels we had made for that car? Easy, run your remaining inventory out of the 16 OZ Jalpa wheel and fit SOME of the last 1987 and 1988 Jalpas with the leftover Silhouette wheels. Rumor has it that some importers also may have ordered Jalpas during its production cycle with the Silhouette wheels fitted as well.
Very intereseting I have heard that, but that does not account for the tecno wheels? I heard Tecno bought the forms after the fire and continued with original style but Lambo had all ready contracted with OZ. I have spoken with Joe Nasti (spelling) and he told me he ordered Bravos direct from the factory... he did not say and I did not ask if he meant the Lambo or the Campy factory. He said about 1/3 to 1/2 of the Jalpas he imported had the Bravo wheels not the smooth CT versions.
Sounds wonderful - but give us the name and contact details for this English chap! Frankly I regret trying to help out regarding the supply of 285/40 15 tyres (yes that is how it's spelt in english) for 7veloce. If anyone can find current manufacture tyres cheaper, quicker, better, rounder, whatever, please feel free to go ahead - AND I promise i'll never mention tyres again!
Wow, I was not trying to be rude or pretenious... we are all here to talk about our experiences good and bad, cheap and usually expensive in the lamborghini business. as YOU I am only trying to help a fellow Lamborghini owner out. I also made reference that prices have gone up on almost everything. The gentleman's name is Terry Joint for any that may have delt with in the past. My deals have been excellent. The last post I could find from him was in late 09 on the "other" lamborghini site.
i may be partly responsible for the fire story. ive since heard a contradiction but no real confirmation that something different happened. well yes, thats the story tecno acquired campy wheel division rights. im surprised how many times i get my own story regurgitated to me. many of the form were updated and for a pressure cast mg opposed to the sand casted elktron. The tecno’s are stronger with the newer process. with other tenco remakes of the the campys they are just as light if not lighter. jalpa campy and tecnos both look very similar without looking in detail of the backspoking. It much easier the tell the older wheels vintage wheels since the campys are typically more wavy and porous. theres a cut off date in the mid 90's were MIM aquired tecno so one cant get custom casted mg wheel as readily as in the past. i used to have the north american importer tecno catalog of there offerings which i loaned to friend and never saw it again. the revamped tecno brand have been diluted for mass market and there mg wheels are strictly for open formula cars. You can tell the newer version with the red script vs the older block fonts logo
Much of the previous batch of 1000 made by Yokohama had to be destroyed as they were over 6 years old and could not legally be sold. You might wish to check the manufacture date of the excellent deal items you have on offer. The ones I refer to are current manufacture.
Maybe. The issue is that 285/40 15s were only fitted to three (i think) cars, the Silhouette, the Renault Turbo2 and some Panteras (on the front!). In the recent past and currently only Yokohama have manufactured this size using the old discontinued AVS tread style moulds. This is why matching front and rear treads are no longer possible. Given the fact that so many had to be destroyed due to lack of sales we should be very grateful that current manufacture tyres are still available in small quantities. For interest here is a pic of Renault Turbo2 (now sold) in the same collection in Colorado as 40102. You will see there is a white Jalpa there as well. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Awesome find. There was a red/tan one in Virginia several years ago, I don't remember the vin though.
I do not understand why all the negative ccomments. Is there a reason you are being so negative about these tyres? All I am doing is trying to help someone. If he wants the tires they are his, if not he is FREE to buy them from you or from anyone else he wants.
Hey...that is my Renault now. They had a very interesting collection. I was close to purchasing the Silhouette and the Jalpa as well but passed. I love the Renault...absolute blast to drive. Brian
I want to thank you for sharing the info on 285/40 15 tyres. It provides options for me. It is exactly what I am asking for. FYI, early Porsche Turbo (1976) used the same size for the rear as well.
Did you see if the Jalpa sold or who bought it? I did not see in on the auction site, but I know a lot ogf the nicer cars went before they even made it to auction.
SVOtech on this site has a white Jalpa, in Colorado. Maybe it's his car. Outstanding Brian on the Renault. I'm going to start calling you Brian Leno .
It was not my intention to be negative. I have no tyres for sale nor do I have any commercial interest in selling tyres. I have just sent you a pm in a genuine attempt to sort this out amicably!
All for moving on and helping bring this beautiful SIL back to its former glory with any information WE ALL can provide this new owner!
Roy Cats was involved with the sale of the Silhouette....he sold it 45 minutes after he bought it. The Jalpa also had original magnesium bravo wheels on it. Roy still has the Countach from this collection for sale. All the cars needed some type of work done. If I remember, they had at least 60 cars packed in their building....including tons of models, pictures and other car related stuff...I could have spent all day there looking around. Foreign cars in one room and american in another. Brian
