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The Restoration Starts Here: 275GTB Shortnose 07333

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  1. 275GTB

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    #751 275GTB, Nov 21, 2011
    Ok problem solved and panic over, with regards to the brake & fuel lines!

    Our head mechanic has confirmed that both sets of lines are indeed a copper/nickel mix (sure he mentioned Cunifer, or something similar) and have DOT approval for use in the automotive industry. They are supplied by one of the leading automotive suppliers in the UK, we checked with them, and they said they would refuse to supply pure copper pipe under any circumstance - for all the reasons discussed earlier. back on track - phew!!!!!

    cheers Mark
     
  2. Manel Baró

    Manel Baró Karting

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    #752 Manel Baró, Nov 21, 2011
    Hi Mark,

    Just a couple of comments regarding the brake lines:
    A 1969 study SAE claimed the 90-10 copper-nickel alloy UNS C70600 (Kunifer pipe) was superior to the steel one because of corrosion concerns. Apparently, Kunifer pipe was since been adopted by European automakers Volvo, Rolls-Royce, Lotus Cars, Aston-Martin, Porsche, Audi....[

    Also suggest the reading of "Copper-Nickel Automotive Vehicle Brake Tubing" article in
    Copper.org web site.

    Low-expansion flexible brake hoses are a good choice for a performance car .

    BTW: the TorqueTube fitted by the factory to the "Longnoses" would probably be a welcome upgrade to 07333.
     
  3. 275GTB

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    #753 275GTB, Nov 21, 2011

    Hi, thanks for the information, i will have a read up on that.

    I have the Roelofs Driveshaft and CV joints kit for the 275GTB:

    http://www.roelofsparts.com/rp/index.php?option=com_productbook&func=detail&Itemid=26&id=103

    cheers Mark
     
  4. 275GTB

    275GTB Formula 3

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    #754 275GTB, Nov 21, 2011
    here is the actual web-link, very interesting and informative artcle - thanks:

    http://www.copper.org/applications/automotive/brake.html
     
  5. PSk

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    #755 PSk, Nov 21, 2011
    Sorry for causing this unnecessary drama ... sneaking off into my corner.

    Pete
     
  6. tbakowsky

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    #756 tbakowsky, Nov 21, 2011
    Ditto...carry on...
     
  7. evoderby

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    #757 evoderby, Nov 22, 2011
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    Mark,

    Love what you're doing with regards to overall quality of the restoration and attention to detail. These include the (completely reversible) upgrades such as the Roelofs dampers and competition brakes.

    Since you've already proved yourself open to Dutch innovation in your quest to modernise the GTB, I'd like to kindly point you towards another Dutch company that offers a totally reversible / non intrusive electric power steering conversion for a host of classic cars including the 275GTB:

    http://www.ezpowersteering.nl/index.php?p=0

    The beauty of the system is it requires no engine driven hydraulic pumps and associated lines that spoil underbonnet appearance. Furthermore the rate of assistance is speed and load dependent as well as completely adjustable through a well hidden "volume control" knob, up to the point where no assistance is given at all. This means you can effectively safeguard against steering feel getting lost through over-assistance, as well as reverse park the with one finger on the wheel whilst hanging out of the door to size the available gap.

    **No affiliation**
     
  8. 275GTB

    275GTB Formula 3

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    #758 275GTB, Nov 22, 2011
    Goedemiddag,

    Many thanks - my mother is Dutch so I have a close affiliation with this fine Nation!

    I have an electric power steering system fitted to my rally car, and it does work incredibly well, but for the moment I wont be fitting one to the 275GTB, maybe wait until I am an old man (or that should be an older man)!

    cheers Mark
     
  9. evoderby

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    #759 evoderby, Nov 22, 2011
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    LOL!

    You don't have to be old(er), just appreciate the fact that your significant other looks that much cooler behind the wheel than you ever will.....whilst at the same time you don't want her to loose control due to heavy steering;-)

    Have fun living/building your dream and enjoy it in good health!

    Groet,

    Harald
     
  10. 275GTB

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    #760 275GTB, Nov 22, 2011
    Thank you Harald
     
  11. Organiser

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    #761 Organiser, Nov 23, 2011
    Hi Mark,

    I only found your restoration story yesterday afternoon, I’m normally found in the 348 / 355 section with the occasional look in here, but I had time to read 20 pages then and have caught up today!!

    I can say that you are a star as is your 275, and that it has been a pleasure to read about all the excellent work you have had done to the car, I see why Joe has such a good name now.

    Seeing all the bodywork rebuilt bought back a few memories for me, glad to see the lads back in Italy still have the love for their work!

    I will be watching this thread everyday from now on! I hope I can get to see the 275 in the flesh when its finished?

    Enjoy the final laps.

    Best regards,
    Phil.
     
  12. 275GTB

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    #762 275GTB, Nov 23, 2011
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    Hi Phil, thank you very much, glad you are enjoying the restoration.

    Feel free to come by the garage anytime and see the car, the boys will be more than happy to show you round - there are lots of other interesting projects apart from the 275GTB on the go - several Dino's, Daytonas, 250GTE, 330 america, 250 California will be back soon, a couple of re-body's: 250TDF and a 250 SWB - plus some Lambo's Miura SV, S & p400.

    cheers Mark
     
  13. 275GTB

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    #763 275GTB, Nov 26, 2011
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    hi, does anyone have a good picture of the yellow sticker on the brake servo, or does anyone know which make it is?

    many thanks in advance. Mark
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    #765 275GTB, Nov 27, 2011
    thanks again Matt
     
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  18. Marcel Massini

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    #768 Marcel Massini, Dec 2, 2011
    Ask Parker Hall of Kilidesign in Louisiana, he's THE MAN for all stickers!
    The very best, he also heads IAC/PFA International Advisory Council for the Preservation of the Ferrari Automobile.

    His email is: [email protected]

    Marcel Massini
     
  19. 275GTB

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    #769 275GTB, Dec 2, 2011
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    Hi, remember earlier I need to replace the Roelof race anti-roll bar with the original standard item and Steve in parts found me an original unused item - here it is painted and fitted!


    the new front anti-roll bar fitted
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    #770 275GTB, Dec 2, 2011
    Hi Marcel, thank you very much. I have been in touch with Parker for a while, he is following the restoration closely. He has suggest a few other things i need, hopefully the stickers will be here very soon.

    regards Mark
     
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  22. Wheels1

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    #772 Wheels1, Dec 4, 2011
    Looks Great Mark, I wish my car had come together so quickly!
     
  23. brownsgolf

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    #773 brownsgolf, Dec 4, 2011
    I just had to say that this is am awesome approach to the restoration. This car is and will be impeccable, I would be willing to eat of the bottom of this car. I can't even imagine the level of expertise that the craftsmen you have hired for this project.
     
  24. Motob

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    #774 Motob, Dec 4, 2011
    The original brake pipes are 3/16" in outside diameter and the fuel pipes are 10mm in outside diameter. They were originally copper plated steel tubing. Why not jut buy the correct steel tubing and have it copper plated?
     
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    #775 275GTB, Dec 5, 2011
    Hi, thanks - great info! I can safely say I never knew that, I am sure that sort of info would win the local pub quiz even in Modena.

    As stated previously I am not aiming for the lawn at Pebble Beach, just to make the car beautiful and very functional - its for driving after all.

    We are using these brake pipes because thats what has been recommended to go with the Roelof Competition brakes. Brake pipes i regard as consumable items, they will be changed many times over the cars life - easy thing to change back next time.

    The actual fuel line on the car is a different size from the pipe in the picture, the picture is just from stock in the store room - same brand and standard etc. Not sure if its 10mm but is visually bigger than the stuff pictured above. I am sure the guys are saving the original ends, so I assume its the correct size they are using.

    I really appreciate this level of knowledge being shared, as I am sure everyone following the tread does.

    thanks again Mark
     
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