360CS or 430?

Me ....me was talking about me.....

 

I don't have the experience of most on here so for me to make a choice is difficult. I can say being a CS owner, it would take a very special car for me to trade.

Everytime I get into my CS I am thrilled. My last car was a SL55 amg and although it was just as fast as my CS the experience it titally different.

My personal thought is this car will never be beten down in price and may appriciate as time marches on. That being said it does not matter because I will never sell mine.

Maybe not the fastest race car but a true race car for the street.
Good luck in your choice.

 

The stradale seems to be pretty common compared to how rare some of you think it is.
I saw 2 last week at one dealership. I found out 3 people I personally know have them after not knowing what kind of ferrari's they actually were.

I hope they go up in value but would be willing to place a 5 year bet they don't appreciate more than 10%. Keep in mind were talking 360 Modena car mostly with Challenge enhancements all around. Comparing that to a supercar as of F40, F50, ENZO, isn't even in the same ballpark as those all unique cars with no entry level like the Stradale has compared to the 360 Modena.

Better example then the Ferrari supercars before, is a Porsche Turbo and a Porsche GT2. Yes the GT2 is worth a premium but it did not appreciate in value, its still going down. Rather quickly if I'm not mistaken.

 

Pretty common? Really? It could be that you see the same three cars all the time and think that they are common. The reality is, they are not.

 

We appreciate your input. Six posts into your tenure here and all...

Proper research on your part will show that the Stradale was not produced on the regular 360 Modena assembly line. Distancing it from the more pedestrian Modena brethren that you mention. And furthermore it is indeed considered by many to be firmly within the supercar category - just as the 288GTO before it was/is.

 

Good read from the CS project leader engineer

http://www.************.com/creating-the-challenge-stradale-patrizio-moruzzi-t54.html

 

If I read this properly the CS is priced at 1/3rd that if the 458. If that's the case it seems to be a good deal. That puts it at just over 100k USD here if priced at 1/3 rd the 458.

Dollar amount doesn't matter because we don't spend the same currency.


If you do buy the CS do not change the gear box. It then will not be a CS anymore and you might as well stick with a standard 360. Don't butcher it I mean.

Most of the good CS are 1/2 the value of the 458 here so go for it.

The COE I don't get so if this 50k is another tax to keep the car your cost is getting closer to the values we have here. Do you have to pay this COE in a few years on a 458 as well? If so than it doesn't matter what car you own you have to pay that 50k tax.

 

For once you have it right, people are actually paying 140+ for Stradales.

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Get the 16M already!

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LOL!

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Forgot to answer the OP... Stradale hands down.

 

Considering there are MORE Ferrari F40s made than Challenge Stradales, Perhaps you can hook me up with a trade. My Stradale for one of those everyday common F40s. I'll even resist taking cash plus car and make it an even trade straight across!

 

Thanks for sharing this comparison, I found it very interesting.

Good luck with the potential 16M upgrade if that is what you wish .

 

Plus! I'd be willing to bet that half the 365 CS's that were brought to the US have been totaled.

 

Lol. Half?

Maybe 15

Lots have been wrecked.

 

Sounds like my comments were not liked too much, lol.

It must just be a coincedence of the 3 people I know and the dealership that had 2 last week were all 360CS all with the strip except 1 of the dealers was without which I can confirm was a CS.

One of these 360CS is owned by a personal friend who is my best buddy so don't take it that I dislike them, I actually enjoy the CS and hope to get some more seat time in it soon again I was just trying to make a price point OPINION that may be different than others have here. I may be right or I may be proved wrong down the road who knows.

 

I'll take the over...but it sure would be interesting to know how many are left in the US...

 

Where is the dealer with two CS's for sale?

 

I drove the CS to cars and coffee (good lord that is early, why isn't ther "burnouts and bruch" or somesuch more civilized event?)


Anywho...I am really struggling with getting rid of the CS, even just the short drive to C&C reconfirmed how special/rare and "feel/sound-intense" these cars are...

I'm taking it for a 5-6 hour roundtrip to the mountains tomorrow...if I come to any additional realizations, I'll post an update...I expect to report - "driving on highway kinda sucked and was LOUD" along with "twisties when I got there were amazing"!

 

Driving my first one on Tuesday. Already have offers from the dealer for my cars. A deal could be had...if I love it (I really, really do love my two current cars and trading those + $100k for another single car means it must...well, you get the idea). If only the 16M was a "and" rather than an "in leiu of"...

I have to say though...I'm somewhat surprised to see you say get the 16M. Given that I'm struggling to part with the CS...care to elaborate on your views on 16M (or even scud coupe vs. CS?).

Thanks!

 

Get rid of it? And replace it with?? Oh yea..1000 posts..congrats!

 

my cs is red with a stripe (which i think is the best color combo and i bet costs more on the used market than other color schemes), and the number was 565. the yellow f50 was nice in that color - but that is a car that i dont consider to be worth the market price. lots of car, presence, performance, but wow have they gotten expensive.

the cs is a great car that you will not regret getting for an instant.

 

from a numbers perspective you are not totally wrong, since there are about as many as f40's. but the reason you are likely to see more of them is that the owners really like driving them, and there is not such a sever penalty for doing so, as for an f40 for example.

at the same time, the car is gaining a kind of mythical rep such that they are sought after - and this creates a different market dynamic over time - like the dino. so i would be willing to take your bet on the values going forward. actually i already did since i bought one, and will not sell it. (actually i have only ever sold one of the ferraris i have bought - the 348....and that was good riddance).

 

15?

No way. Lot's more than 15. If only 15 had been totaled, people wouldn't take the time to take totaled ones and rebuild them with a salvage title.

None the less, I'd say most have been wrecked and have a "story".

 

Good post. I can understand your valid point of view. I look at the F40 as a mythical creature but maybe its just because of the age it is now and motorsports legend that came with that car many years ago.