Maserati official classiche documents, any good?

I've been in contact with the classic department regarding documentation about my car. Is it worth it? Is there anyone who has bought this? Below is the answer I received when asking what they could provide.


Thank-you of your interest in historical documentation. I would like to advise that we have located the following documentation pertaining to your vehicle:

1) True copy of the original Final Test Data Sheet (document on parchment paper) - This is an original document which was compiled by the responsible of the tests when the car was produced. There are some technical details about the engine, details about the engine test and (when available) information about external colour, interior, keys and carpets. It's interesting especially for its "historical feeling" which transmits.... --> 2 pages, 100 Euro
2) True copy of the original Delivery Note (document on parchment paper) - It's the original delivery note to the Dealership when the car left the factory. --> 50 Euro
3) Car Technical and Aesthetic characteristics document (document on parchment paper) - Date of production, model, chassis number, engine number, displacement and fuel system, n° of cylinders, type of gearbox, type of body, rims, external colour with code (when available), interior with leather code (when available), possible accessories. --> 120 Euro
4) Certificate of Origin - Official document signed by a Maserati Authorized Representative, where is reported: Date of production, factory name when the car was produced, model, chassis number, engine type, n° of cylinders, displacement, engine number, type of body. This document, due to the fact that it is signed by a Maserati Authorized Representative it is usually used as "official" document when requested for special registration to "Classic" associations. --> 250 Euro

Please consider that according to EU fiscal rules, the documents issued by an Italian company to an European subject that does not own VAT, need to include the application of 21% (Italian) VAT, so for this reason we have to know from you who will be the holder of the invoice:
1) If the holder is a person, you have to add 21% of VAT to the cost of the documentation.
2) If the holder is a company it is not necessary to apply VAT to the cost of the documentation.

 

Yes, the documents are good to have. I am personally not interested in no.4 as it is a new (!) document - I am only interested in old docs.

Unfortunately the factory does not provide any other relevant material like letter(s) of the former owner(s) to the factory, invoice(es) etc.
I always request a copy of the official order of a car. This clearly shows how long Maserati need to build the car or if they had a car in the requested color "in stock"...

Ciao!
Walter

 

I requested them all for my car. I was happy with them and the service from Maserati. The Cert. of Origin, is really useful if you've got a racing Maserati with stories.

For your QP I, I suggest you order the "true copies" of original doucuments e.g. data sheet, delivery note, and as Walter B. said the factory invoice. They are of great quality and important for your car. All the documents are good to have, choose what's good for your car.

One thing to note is Maserati/Fabio may not have all the documents or "services" for your car. Some things get lost over time! One request that I made, Fabio just was able to offer the Cert. of Origin and the Tech document.

Hope this helps!

~Trev

 

I also consider these document useful. Just curiouse when the factory will start to ask cars in for a further - equivalent to Ferrari Classice document - in depth evaluation.
Will be surely great fun to see a couple of "stories" cars fall through.
Just thinking - what will hapen once Mr. Cozza is not there any more...?

 

I would go with 1 and 2 as they are copies of original documents. 3 and 4 are new documents which would be less important on a QP1 since the same information can be obtained from 1 and 2.

I just received the documents for one of my cars and they are well worth the investment.

Ivan

 

Gents

I don't have a rare racer but would love to get documents for my Quattroportes What is the process ??

 

Send an e-mail to Fabio Collina, [email protected] with the VINs of the cars you are interested.

He will respond with a list of the documents available and their prices

You pay via bank wire (they are not set up to take credit cards or Paypal)

Documents arrive via DHL

Ivan

 

I can confirm that Fabio Collina who is succeeding Mr Cozza is doing a sterling job: I just spoke with both of them on the phone and he is as helpful as Ermanno ever was: they will almost certainly be at KHAMSIN QUARANTA and he is also helping me sort out the fact that there are two Khamsins with the same chassis number but this must be a snafu by the importer.

The factory documents are good for an owner to have to complete the file on his car and the more we document the cars with the factory's help the more Maserati's management will be encouraged to preserve its heritage and facilitate the life of owners.

best regards,

Marc

 

Bank Wire? What a PITA and expensive too.

It's the 21st century!

Does anyone know if you can do it through your local Maserati dealer to avoid this?

 

I have a Friend who knows a guy in France who owns the papers of the French Maserati Importer.
He told me it was very interesting and original documentation

 

As far as I know it must be done directly with Maserati. I suggested to Fabio that they also accept Paypal and credit cards.

I also suggested that the owner and parts manuals, currently available in the kits, be also made available separately. We will see what happens ...

Ivan

 

The owners manual was at one time available to download from their website for free. OMG what were they thinking!

Now they are on the right track. They obviously came to their senses.

Ciao,
George

 

People should also be aware that you will have to pay the bank transfer fee on both sides and if you only pay it on your side then the payment will come up short on Maserati's end. Then you will have to incur an addition TWO (2) bank transfer fees plus the amount of the missed bank transfer fee.

Double the pleasure ...

It becomes absurd.

I only deal with people who insist on a bank transfer for small stuff if they have the proverbial gun to my head.

 

That was not the case when I ordered my documentation recently. There was one wire fee, one transaction; quite simple really.

~Ciao

 

I am set up to do bank transfers from my computer therefore it was relatively easy. I only incurred one bank charge as any charges on the receiving end are paid by Maserati. An international bank wire takes about 3 days while Paypal is instantaneous. Fabio is a smart guy, he will figure this out.

Ivan

 

I wasn't speaking specifically about Maserati but in general. There IS a charge on both ends and I've been the victim of this before with other vendors so I always get that clarified up front. It's $25/$30 on each end as well.

But is it unreasonable to ask a car company with GPS and many computers in their cars to move out of the 1980s' technology?

 

Thanks for the opportunity to vent on this issue. I experienced the same thing dealing with Cicognani. Then my bank screwed up the exchange rate facilitating two wire transfers as described above. What is it with the Italian suspicion of credit cards/Paypal? This practice plays into every bad stereotype about Italian business...

 

Not just Italy. I had it happen to me with a vendor who's still very active on ebay in Austria. he also still has about $80 of mine. Next time I'm in Austria he's going to get a visit.

I always use a personal connection if I'm doing business in Italy. It really helps a LOT!

 

This year I ordered about 30 files from the Factory archive and never had any problems to send the cash by normal bank-wire (but within the IBAN-system to which the USA is not connected!).

Ciao!
Walter

 

Very cool to see these old documents! Signore Pollio conducted the tests. To know that the car was produced Oct 5, 1965 and roadtested 32km on the 25th. Too bad I cannot understand italian. Will try google translate tonight, but not so easy to read the handwriting. One ofthe things tested is 33kg@2000rpm, 43kg@3000rpm, 44kg@4000rpm and 40@5000rpm, this should be the torque?

 

Yes, the unit in Italia is the Kilogram-meter (KGm). 1 KGm is 9,81 Nm (Newton-meter).