Lowest Price on 458 Italia seen yet

It doesn't even have sport seats?...

 

Doesn't even have Daytona's. Those are standard seats. Doesn't say power seats or not. Also, the standard wheels and almost 6K mileage.

Still, not a bad car for someone. It's on it's last year of warranty.

I paid just a hair more for a well optioned 2012. If you can buy new, you can still save a lot of money.

 

Has carbon fiber steering wheel with LEDs, all you need.

And some people like the standard seats including myself. They might be the most "basic" but I think they work well.

 

I like the basic seats too. But, I think if they are not power, it's pretty cheapy. Even a Camry has power seats.

Its not a bad price or a bad car. It's just that you have to compare apples to apples when dealing with this stuff. It's easy to say you saw one at such and such a price when every car is dramatically different.

 

My 16M doesn't have power seats. They weren't even an option..Guess I should have got a camry

 

you know this would be the start of an interesting thread. On new Ferraris does it pay to order a loaded car? Most times options seem to be ignored or greatly discounted on trade or later a sale. Some may have a different opinion about this.

 

If it's worth it to you, if it's a "useful" option or not, then yes it's worth it to get a loaded car.

 

Neither do the 458's sport seats. The purpose is to reduce weight. That's not the case in the standard seat.

My point is if you're going to just get the no option standard seat without power adjust, it's a bit on the low ball side.

If you got a Camry without power seats, you'd feel it was a stripped model.

 

Actually, we've had this discussion before. I think there are a lot of options that future buyers will not consider in purchasing a specific car.

To me these include CF interiors and leather additions to the interior. The biggest factor will be color combo, condition, mileage, and year. After that, they lump them all together and decide which one is the best deal. Giving up on any CF stuff to get a better price is an easy decision to make.

 

Bob....It was suppose to be funny. Lighten up a little

 

looks like a nice car if you want to get in and just drive...... the car seems lowered

 

Yes. My sense is that many options depreciate out pretty quickly.

Even mileage is not that critical, at least for nearly new 458s which have only a few hundred to a few thousand miles. I correlated asking price vs. mileage for the 26 458s currently listed on the DuPont Registry. Statistically, each 1000 miles accounted for a decrease of only $2500 in asking price, and mileage explained only 2% of the price variation between vehicles, which covered a range of nearly $100K.

 

I'm willing to bet that people ranging from young kids to great grandparents both men and women will stare at this car and know that it is something special. People will take pictures of it with their cellphones and be excited just to have seen it. They won't notice a lack of a little carbon fibre or the fancy seats. While we may get excited about these details, even in the base form it is an extraordinary machine. I bought mine used and while someone else had picked out the extras (and I would have done a few things differently) I was glad to walk into the dealer and drive away with a 458 without waiting 6 months. I don't understand why he didn't order heated seats (when he was getting electric seats anyway) or what the cost difference would have been but at the end of the day I prefer to drive her than my GTC or Rover even though they both have heated seats....

 

Absolutely right. They are celebrity cars because they represent artistic expression to anyone who looks at them, more so to those who know what they are capable of. People seem happy to be around them and happy that they exist -- this is a lot to say in the modern era.

I also bought a nearly new one and ended up with heated seats that I will never use in Southern California. I can understand the need for them in NJ where I lived for decades. Luck of the draw.

 

Power seats are just extra cost, weight and something-else-to-go-wrong anyway.. once you're adjusted.. unless someone ELSE hops in.. how often is it going to change? and if so so little effort to do even then..

 

When 458's get to $200,000 I'm in......any predictions when?

 

Very valid point. In all the cars I have had I never really moved the seat much. I actually prefer a mechanical seat.

 

It's because your car says 16N on the back and not 16M.
I for one thought you noticed the made in Korea sticker on your dash.

Seriously what Ferrari model will you try to talk down next?
It's like it's your favorite thing to downplay these cars.

my wife drives my cars all the time. I am always moving the seat back.....after I've hit my knee on the dash and head on the door sill anyway.

 

A long time I think. Look at California's. Some are 3 years old and barely go below the 200 barrier. And, they where cheaper to buy than the 458 by about 25 grand.

Ferrari wants to try to maintain a 12 to 18 month waiting list for the car. Even if it's 8 to 10, that's still a long time for people to wait. They will ship fewer cars to the US to do it (and more to China and Russia). Spiders are going to make new coupes harder to come by when US production ramps up in the spring. That means that used prices will be higher for some time to come.

 

Ah... I didn't get the humor part. Sorry about that.

 

I'm in the market for a 458, I passed on one at $239k 5 weeks ago and have had buy bids as low as $230k, don't know if there was a bite at $230k yet from another dealer but doubt it this time of year.


07/28/11 RIVRSIDE Lease $242,000 8,769 Avg RED 12G A No
11/03/11 RIVRSIDE Lease $239,000 11,899 Avg RED 8G A

 

It's closer than you think Bob, if you want to pay $300k for a car I can buy for $200k in a few months please send me a PM (your price is always $300k btw), It's guys like you I dream about selling cars to, when your back in LA I'd like you buy some seats for a family members fundraiser for $25k each, the seats are simulated gold and have $25k embrodered on the fronts, backs and the underneath bottoms where you can't even see (it's there tho), they are ohh-so-sweet!

Disclaimer: I'm a retired dealer but have NEVER sold a car to anyone on this board, I do like to chime in about the real world market to help protect people from paying $50k+ for a cup of coffee and a smile on marble floor, YAWN