Miura, the original supercar | Page 392 | FerrariChat

Miura, the original supercar

Discussion in 'LamborghiniChat.com' started by joe sackey, Dec 5, 2006.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. ApexOversteer

    ApexOversteer F1 Veteran

    Feb 15, 2007
    5,968
    Smoky Mountains, TN
    Full Name:
    T.A. Bell
    "Just imagine, that body shape, coming down your high street in 1967, only the sight of Harold Wilson on LSD could've caused more of a stir." - Richard Hammond on the Miura P400

    "You can imagine sitting there in a Wolsey 1800 or a TR6 in 1972, and this turns up at the lights, hopefully with Twiggy in it... I think I'd have fainted." - JK on the Miura P400SV
     
  2. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    10,745
    Cardiff, UK
    Full Name:
    Steven Robertson
    http://www.themiuraregister.com/miura/register.php?id=681

    The first time I saw a Miura was in 1976 and I almost did faint. I'm not exaggerating.
     
  3. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    May 23, 2006
    57,525
    Southern California
    Full Name:
    Joe Sackey
    #9778 joe sackey, Dec 23, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  4. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    10,745
    Cardiff, UK
    Full Name:
    Steven Robertson
    Could very well have been. Charlie Chong owned it after my father in 1978. I think it passed through the hands of a couple of dealers before: Malcolm Clarke > David Salamone > Charlie Chong though not sure.
     
  5. CK7684

    CK7684 Formula 3

    Oct 19, 2011
    1,000
    MN
    Full Name:
    Jason
  6. 993cc

    993cc Rookie

    Apr 11, 2005
    49
    Athens, Greece
    http://www.tonyerker.info/html/miura_kokotas.html

    #3829 ...Apparently this Miura (S I believe?) was discovered recently in Greece. From what is known so far it was given as a gift from Onassis to Greek famous night-scene singer Kokkotas and probably stayed here ever since. Is there any other known history on this car? Joe Sackey?
     
  7. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    May 23, 2006
    57,525
    Southern California
    Full Name:
    Joe Sackey
    Nothing further from me. Is there Onassis documentation, or is it simply lore?
     
  8. 993cc

    993cc Rookie

    Apr 11, 2005
    49
    Athens, Greece
    Thanks for the quick response. Unlikely that there are any documents. Maybe its lore but it's true that Onassis was fond of Kokotas -a decent racing driver and general petrol head who could have bought it himself (had a GT40 as well back then). But I expect more news on this story.
     
  9. garybobileff

    garybobileff Formula 3
    Sponsor

    Feb 5, 2004
    1,180
    San Diego CA
    Full Name:
    Gary
    As previously stated in this thread, I personally saw and inspected this car, minus drive train at the present time. The drive train is available at a remote location. When I personally met with Mr. Kokkotas, he told me the story ( thru a translator) as stated above.
    Gary Bobileff
     
  10. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    May 23, 2006
    57,525
    Southern California
    Full Name:
    Joe Sackey
    I have no problem with the notion that Onassis gave away a Miura, because in fact at the time he could have afforded to give away the entire Miura production :)
     
  11. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    May 23, 2006
    57,525
    Southern California
    Full Name:
    Joe Sackey
    #9786 joe sackey, Dec 26, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  12. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    May 23, 2006
    57,525
    Southern California
    Full Name:
    Joe Sackey
    #9787 joe sackey, Dec 26, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  13. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    10,745
    Cardiff, UK
    Full Name:
    Steven Robertson
    The side view of a Miura is my favorite though still beautiful from all other angles.
     
  14. On days like these

    Aug 19, 2009
    66
    #9789 On days like these, Dec 26, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  15. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    10,745
    Cardiff, UK
    Full Name:
    Steven Robertson
    When did they stop doing the original type of Bertone badges? I notice the rally/racing Miura S? above posted by Joe has the original type which I do prefer being more colourful.
     
  16. MiuraP400

    MiuraP400 Formula Junior

    Feb 3, 2008
    951
    Arizona
    Full Name:
    Jim
    From the best I can tell the badge changed with the intoduction of the P400S. Which implies the racing Miura, in the photo above, was a P400 converted to look like an S by changing from black to chrome trim.

    edit; Looked again at the white Miura, it appears to be a P400 (black trim) with a P400S Bertone badge.

    Cheers Jim
     
  17. Olivier NAMECHE

    Olivier NAMECHE F1 Veteran

    Aug 18, 2007
    5,094
    CANADA
    Full Name:
    Olivier
    #9792 Olivier NAMECHE, Dec 26, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  18. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    10,745
    Cardiff, UK
    Full Name:
    Steven Robertson
    Thanks for your reply. I saw this too and was partly why I asked the question although I did think that the white P400 may have had later badges applied because the originals may have fallen off or something?
     
  19. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    10,745
    Cardiff, UK
    Full Name:
    Steven Robertson
    Does Mr Kokkotas still own the car?
     
  20. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    10,745
    Cardiff, UK
    Full Name:
    Steven Robertson
    Great pics of the racing Miura. Thanks for posting, Joe and Olivier. Doesn't look like there's an 'S' badge on the back? Can anyone make out what shape the tail pipes are?
     
  21. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    May 23, 2006
    57,525
    Southern California
    Full Name:
    Joe Sackey
    #9796 joe sackey, Dec 26, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  22. joe sackey

    joe sackey Five Time F1 World Champ

    May 23, 2006
    57,525
    Southern California
    Full Name:
    Joe Sackey
    #9797 joe sackey, Dec 26, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  23. MiuraP400

    MiuraP400 Formula Junior

    Feb 3, 2008
    951
    Arizona
    Full Name:
    Jim
    I have not looked for them, but I have been told the Bertone badges on the P400 are much harder to find than the Bertone badges used in the S and SV. It is fairly common to see the badges updated on the P400. I suspect the orginal badges are easily damaged when they are removed to paint the car and since they are hard to find, the later badges get fitted.

    Cheers Jim
     
  24. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    10,745
    Cardiff, UK
    Full Name:
    Steven Robertson
    #9799 miurasv, Dec 27, 2011
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2011
    Thanks. Sounds logical. I've seen some bubbling of the paint occur on the metal where the badges are applied to hence the need to treat the metal necessitating the removal of the badges. Is that part of the body made of aluminium? Bubbling occurs quite a bit on the pointy bits of the rear clam on the side where it rests above the side sills.
     
  25. alberto

    alberto Formula 3

    Aug 25, 2001
    2,404
    San Diego
    Full Name:
    Alberto
    Mr. Fiat has the OEM style Bertone badges, I recently got a set. I have two sets of the later style Bertone badges (not the "B" style like used on the SV's, but the shield style with multiple colors) if anyone needs them.

    What I am having a hell of a time finding is the Torino plastic badges (not the non-original metal ones, the plastic ones). Anyone with a source for the plastic Torino badges, please post it.
     

Share This Page