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  1. JG26_Irish

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    #1 JG26_Irish, Dec 26, 2011
    I was told recently that the new F1 formula for 2012 calls for 1.6 liter four cylinder engines. Is this correct? What do you know about this?

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  2. TifosiUSA

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    #2 TifosiUSA, Dec 26, 2011
    It's been talked about lots on here, try a search and you should find lots of info. They're also not coming in 2012 but got pushed to 2013.
     
  3. Tifosi15

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    #3 Tifosi15, Dec 26, 2011
    New engine regs are for 2013
     
  4. vinuneuro

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    #4 vinuneuro, Dec 26, 2011
    They're coming in 2014, not 2013.
     
  5. GordonC

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    #5 GordonC, Dec 26, 2011
    That, and they're going to be 1.6 litre V6s, not inline 4s as originally proposed.

    Irish, whoever told you about the 2012 1.6 inline 4 engines got it almost all wrong (the displacement is right, though!) :p Find a new source for your F1 info! :D
     
  6. Fast_ian

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    #6 Fast_ian, Dec 26, 2011
    +1

    No compound compressors and a 15K (?) rev limit IIRC. Merc are already running theirs, and apparently it sounds good......

    +1 :)

    Cheers,
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  7. TifosiUSA

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    #7 TifosiUSA, Dec 27, 2011
    Really? didn't know that.
     
  8. JG26_Irish

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    #8 JG26_Irish, Dec 28, 2011
    Thanks for the replies guys. So, they are also turbocharged, right? I have heard so much misinformation on this subject that I was not sure what to believe. V6 is good. But is it not true that the original plan was to use 4-bangers? and this got changed to V6? I am looking forward to seeing turbo cars in F1 again. Maybe some of it will trickle down to us.

    Any word on boost limits? I understand that there will be fuel flow restrictions which should also limit boost so the mixture remains at a safe limit. I can recall that some of the old 1.5 L turbos of the 80's were putting out in excess of 1000hp during qualifying and ran about 600-900 during the races. But I have no clue how much boost they ran to make that. My guess is 2-3 atmosphere?

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  9. Fast_ian

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    #9 Fast_ian, Dec 28, 2011
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    Dunno about the last point, but yeah, the original proposal was for turbo inline 4's. Many people (Bernie included ;)) suggested the noise may suck (or be non-existent) and it got changed to a V6. IIRC, this change also pushed their introduction from 2013 to 2014 (?)

    2014 engine regs;

    Source; http://fia.com/en-GB/sport/regulations/Pages/FIAFormulaOneWorldChampionship.aspx

    They're pretty big PDF files but make for some interesting reading if you're that way inclined.....

    As for the BMW / Honda etc turbo era - Affectionately known as the "Kablamo period" heres a repost of a paper written by Dr Theissen that someone found a while back. Again, some interesting stuff if you're interested.

    Cheers,
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