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30k 355F1 major engine out

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  1. Extreme

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    #1 Extreme, Jan 21, 2012
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    The engine is out! Now who wants to perform the major and put it back in for me?
    I spent the better part of 3 days getting this **** thing out. It was a lot more work than I expected. Next time I'm buying a lift.
    I missed one wire seems to be a ground wire or something, came out of the forward right corner and connected to the oil tank (I left the tank connected to the engine). Embarrassed to tell you about it, tore it in half. I've included a pic hopefully someone can tell me what it is for?

    I also discovered a wear spot in my power steering pipe. Not sure if it happened when removing the motor or was caused from friction with the bolt head, It was clearly caused by the bolt as you can see in the picture. I had originally disconnected the pipe from the pump and then after raising the car about 1 inch I realized I could get to the connection and undid it at the union on the firewall. I sure hope I can find a shop to build me a new one, because the Ferrari one is about $1k.

    looking at the pictures it appears the engine and cradle are sitting on the ground. They are on a furniture dolly. ;)
    It's late now and I am going to bed.:)
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  2. FlyingAces

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    Oh hell no,, looks like a headache from hell. Count me out.... though now is prob the best time for upgrades :)
     
  3. ernie

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    THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!! Ata boy, way to man up and pull that sucker. You've gotten this far, you can surely do the rest. I know you can do it, just have confidence in yourself. Take your time and take plenty of pictures.

    As for that wire you busted, if a new one can't be made, I would just solder it back together and then put a heat shrink tube on it. But that is just me.

    Again, congratulations on the first step of your engine out major. Well done, and keep up the good work.
     
  4. mowater

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    this is so cool ... good luck with the est and be careful


    question: seeing as everything is out, will the car need to have the f1 bled and the clutch self calibrated again? or do you just bolt them back on
     
  5. yelcab

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    Looks like the wire is the oil temperature sender connected to the bottom of the tank. And a lift will make that job much easier.
     
  6. TheMayor

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    If you think getting it out without a lift was a pain, try putting it back.

    Best of luck in your adventure!
     
  7. Ricambi America

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    What is the engine resting on now? It almost looks like the engine is actually resting on the floor (or at least the brake discs look pretty darn close).

    p.s. In the final picture, I suspect the flash on your camera makes things look more 'rusty' than they actually are. If temps permit it, raise up the garage door and take a picture in some better light :)
     
  8. Ferraripilot

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    This is *the* best way to learn. Don't be discouraged and just be sure to keep yourself organized, clean, and ask lots of questions if something doesn't look right! Congrats to you. This is all part of the Ferrari IMO.
     
  9. White Knight

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    Looking good! Small steps in the right direction!
     
  10. Ovducati7

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    So what do you need help with?? I might have that hose, I can look at the parts I have
     
  11. TexasKid

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    Grabbing popcorn.
     
  12. ClydeM

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    Think how much lighter your car will be without all those extra superfluous parts you'll have at the end of all this.
     
  13. sevminasyan

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    Looking good Erick

    I won't go into details now but a note for you when you put it back in. Once you remove the cradle, the subframe seems to split a bit. When its time to put it back in, help yourself and buy nylon strap from home depot if you don't have one yet and wrap it around the bottom rails where your six bolts are. You probably will need to pull the bottom rails closer together to be able to feed teh bottom six bolts it. This is due to having to install the cradle in the awkward position the car is sitting now. Just a strap, pull the frames closer together and feed teh bolts.
     
  14. Extreme

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    Not sitting on floor there is a funiture dolly under it. The rotors are about 3 inches off the floor, the camera plays tricks.
    There is a small amount of rust nothing major that I can see. The picture does look worse than actual condition.
     
  15. Extreme

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    To get the engine out the F1 pump had to be unbolted from the car and the electrical connections unplugged. I don't think it should have to be bleed and calibrated since the hydraulics are still connected.
     
  16. Extreme

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    Take your time eating as this is going to take a bit. :)
     
  17. Extreme

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    #17 Extreme, Jan 21, 2012
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    Here is the part I need: #21
    I am thinking a hydraulics shop should be able to fix it what do you guys say?
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  18. jhfields

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    Great job Eric i wish i lived closer i would be glad to help, i have a 348 spyder and ill do my engine out in 2013, i bought a used 2 post lift just for my car, look forward to more pics, Regards John
     
  19. Extreme

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    #19 Extreme, Jan 21, 2012
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    I noticed the drivers side cam belt seems loose.

    Sorry the only video camera I have is on my iphone and for some reason it shoots small video.
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  20. Extreme

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    #20 Extreme, Jan 21, 2012
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    I found a crack in the cam belt cover on the passenger side. Should I worry about it or just let it be?
    When I took the cover off I only found one spacer is there supposed to be 2 like the other side?

    I hope you guys don't mind all my questions... I really appreciate the help.
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  21. yelcab

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    The belt can be that loose depending on the position of the belt with respect to the rotation cycle. Nevertheless, you are now in a position to get it all right.

    The crack can be JB welded.

    You can also buy that stuff, including the hose, used on Ebay. I would not bet that the hydraulic shop can fix it.
     
  22. ndnbill

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    My thoughts and prayers are with you and
    "by the living Gawd that made you
    you're a better man than I am, Gunga Din."

    with apologies to RK
     
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  23. treedee3d

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    Oh the humanity!!!

    You are one courageous Mother F$&ker
     
  24. Extreme

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    Some of you make me feel as though I'm going off to battle a three headed fire breathing dragon. Isn't it just a car after all?

    I'll admit it is a bit intimidating but after I got in so deep there was no turning back. I'm always up for a challenge, figure if there is something I don't understand I'll ask the brothers of fchat
     
  25. saw1998

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    I seriously envy you. There is nothing more fun and rewarding than working on your own car and doing everything perfectly. You have no time constraints and no reason to rush. I've got to put up a prefabricated steel building with multiple bays and a good quality 2-point lift. Since my divorce, I'm in a townhouse. I have three garages, but they are so small I can barely get out of my car, let alone work on them. :(
     

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