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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Napolis, Jun 27, 2006.

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  1. fatmoocow

    fatmoocow Rookie

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    With so many stories, personalities, and great cars, you should think about getting a film crew to document the next big restoration. It would make a better show than anything currently on discovery.
     
  2. thedoc

    thedoc Formula 3

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    What a stellar idea!
    Mr G the only thing that exceeds your wallet size is your passion for what you love . It comes thru in very post you've ever written. Well done sir!

    Gary
     
  3. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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  4. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Now THAT is space saving!!!!!

    Pretty cool.
     
  5. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Have you worked out what production car it comes from?. I assume it does come from a production FIAT or something ... it sure has bragging rights over it's siblings ;).

    Pete
     
  6. F1wannabe

    F1wannabe Karting

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    Thanks for including the rest of us in your journey! BEAUTIFUL!!!
     
  7. 60cyclehum

    60cyclehum Karting

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    What a great thread, just read the whole thing! Amazing to see one of these P cars disassembled and then reassembled. Thanks for all the detailed photos! I'm going to have to see this car in the flesh when it's broken out...
     
  8. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Jim, my question as probably already been answered at some point but, how many p3 were made, and how many 412p, and p3/4 and p4?
    and from all of them, how many do still exist?
     
  9. moriaan1

    moriaan1 Formula 3

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    0844 rebodied and recently sold P3 to 350canam -to P4
    0846 Daytona winner, long lost, Jim's spyder p3
    0848 Perfetti, Italy p3
    0850 Stroll 412P
    0854 Jim's project car 412p
    0858 the 350 canam (allmost Jim's 3th) :) P4 Berl- to 350canam
    0860 Bardinon P4
     
  10. Martin D

    Martin D F1 Rookie

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    as far as I know, no P3 exists any more because all P3s were updated to 412P/350 CanAm specs back in the day. And there's only one P4 left (0856), the other two were converted to 350 CanAms. Bardinon put a P4 body on his car with the help of David Piper who has the body of 0860 on his 0900 recreation (or however you want to call it)
    the body shape of these cars doesn't tell you what they are, because the engines were updated/changed.

    0844 is in the UK since many years and got raced in the Historic Challenge quite often and I think that Stroll doesn't have 0850 any more. But I don't know who the new owner is.

    Martin
     
  11. 412monzaindy

    412monzaindy Formula Junior

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  12. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Thanks a lot guys, it´s hard to keep track of these cars since they were always being upgraded

    So if i understod well

    there were 3 P3s originaly Built (0844;0846;0848)
    only 1 original P4 was ever built from scratch (0860)
    2 412 (0850;0854)
    1 350 can am (0858)

    ..I wonder, why aren´t these chassis numbers in sequence, an in this case, what are chassis numbers (0852 and 0856)?

    Found this video:

    http://www.streetfire.net/video/ferrari-412p-one-of-a-kind_2374431.htm
     
  13. moriaan1

    moriaan1 Formula 3

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    0856 is one I missed its the 412P of stroll
    0852 is a dino number
     
  14. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    OK so, the 412p are (0854 and 0856).

    This makes 7 cars built and all of them still exist.
     
  15. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    No P3's currently exist nor were any ever sold by Ferrari.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_P#412P

    0844 P3/412P/330 Can Am now fitted with a "412P" body

    0846 P3/ P 3/4

    0848 P3/412P

    0850 original 412P now owned by HY.

    0854 original 412P

    0856 Original P4

    0858 P4/350 Can Am now being fitted with "P4" body

    0860 P4/350 Can Am now fitted with a "P4" body
     
  16. michael platzer

    michael platzer F1 Veteran

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    3 P3 were built 0844,0846 and 0848
    2 412P 0850 and 0854
    3 P4 0856, 0858 and 0860.

    so its all in a straight line.

    for 1967 0844 and 0848 were converted to 412P, 0846 to P3/4 configuration.

    later 0844, 0858 and 0860 have been converted to Can Am Spiders.
     
  17. michael platzer

    michael platzer F1 Veteran

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    Jim beat me by 4 minutes!
     
  18. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    0844 330 Can Am

    0858/0860 350 Can Am
     
  19. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    :)
     
  20. James_Woods

    James_Woods F1 World Champ

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    I am sure it has been said many times before, and probably does not need to be said again - but this is absolutely one of the best looking racing cars ever made.
     
  21. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Thanks, i guess they are 8 after all.
    And from all of them, was 0846 the only one who got totally wrecked in a race?

    Ps: James, i have to agree with you, unlike many of the f-chaters, my main interest in Ferrari is f.1, to me, Ferrari was and is above all an f.1 team, street cars are second to me (perhaps if someday i own one i will think otherwise,lolo) however, in the past couple of years (probably because f.1 is loosing some interest to me, especially after 2008), i started to look more and more to endurance and gt racing, and the 60s period is to me the most fascinating, the cars are simply amazing, with a beauty never to be matched, and racing history specially between 66 and 73 is fantastic....so, when i started to read about this cars, it was like a new chapter of Ferrari history just opened for me....it´s been an amazing ride, thanks to you all.
     
  22. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Several of them have been hit hard in period and more recently.
     
  23. michael platzer

    michael platzer F1 Veteran

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    +1 again
     
  24. Sire Bruno de Losckley

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    0844 330 Canam!!!

    never seen that name. that it signifit
     
  25. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    I wonder why ferrari used a much smaller capacity engine in the P4 to fight the Fords..i mean, the difference is huge!!!Can anyone tell me the diference in weight and power between the P4 and the ford?
     

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