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  1. Matto

    Matto Formula 3

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    Maybe :) But I'll take ramps, chocks and jacks as far as I can go.
     
  2. Matto

    Matto Formula 3

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    Thank you, Wade.
     
  3. 60cyclehum

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    Beautiful! Loved the story- kudos on driving it all the way back, what else would you want to do when you get a car like this except drive for hours on end? I just ordered engine compartment hood struts today myself! I was working on it last night and was using a stick to hold it up, bumped it and got a "wake up call" on the head- "this is the first part you need to order" - went in and ordered new ones directly. Enjoy it!
     
  4. Matto

    Matto Formula 3

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    Thank you, and yes...those scraps of wood don't last long under the bonnet. I didn't get conked on the head, but I did hold it up with my head while installing the first strut :D You're right. I really don't tire of driving the car. Even at 6'3", I find it really comfortable for any trip. The driving position in this car is great for me. I'm really happy with those Stabilus struts. Very kind to the bonnet. Enjoy the car yourself, and congratulations :D
     
  5. Matto

    Matto Formula 3

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    Thanks for the ongoing tips, guys. I found a nice price on a good 36mm at AutoZone. They also had a good set of left-hand twist bits, which I'll go to work with tomorrow morning.
     
  6. Matto

    Matto Formula 3

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    #81 Matto, Jan 14, 2012
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    It was a good day under the wheel well. Fortunately the sun was on me all afternoon, cold day here. I decided to take my time with the belt job and just check everything as I go. Not rushing it makes for a good start to engine and chassis education. Among today's tasks:

    A few bumps with the left-hand drill and the sheared bleeder screw stub popped out, with the washer. Once I had it clear, it was good to see coolant flowing again. New screw and washer went in (thanks Ricambi).

    The intake boot was torn and mummified in electrical tape. A new boot and clamps are on the way. I'm performing a plastic zip-tie exorcism on the car.

    Pulled the evap hoses from the canister, to make way for the a/c hoses. They look like original factory hoses and clamps. Let's just say they acted like 26 y.o. factory hoses and clamps. I love my needle-nose ViseGrips all over again. New hoses are going in and clamps will be positioned so that a human being can remove them next time. Phillips heads are making way for nutdriver-ready clamps.

    The air box clamp will also be repositioned, for access by human beings.

    Upon removing the a/c tensioner assembly, the bearing felt pretty rough. Wade, this was the squeak. I'll get a new bearing in there as well, when it's time to put the belt back on. A/C compressor bracket mounting nuts were only finger-tight. Only a matter of time before the thing fell off. The loose compressor may have hammered the tensioner bearing due to belt misalignment, etc.

    After about 45 min, I managed to uncover the front bank timing belt. It was good to finally see first-hand the thing that strikes fear into the hearts of new Ferrari owners everywhere. Once you're in there, not so scary. Everything's pretty clean, but a lot of corrosion on the tensioner bearing face. It will be good to get those Hills in there. Fortunately for me, the last mechanic only put in 2-3 of the belt shield bolts. I'll be putting a few more in on the way out.

    Another important find....while under the car, taking my time to look everything over, I discovered the right inboard CV boot torn open. Hey, at least I have the next project now :D Between the CV and brakes, I've got my Winter dialed in.

    On to tomorrow. As I finish this, I'll try to post some tips and notes (my two cents) for 308 QV owners...tools, etc.
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  7. Matto

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    #83 Matto, Jan 30, 2012
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    I'll keep putting photos up as I work my way through the car. Cleanup tasks continue. Baldwin and K&N filtration, new caps from Superformance, a new air intake boot and clamps from T. Rutlands and I'm starting to install the new front bonnet foam from Grainger. I'm also sealing up the slight leak at the crossover pipe and taking care of spot rust throughout the engine bay and chassis (radiator brackets, oil cooler brackets and lines, etc.). I also tracked down a stock shift knob from a fellow FChatter....yes, I like the original, and it doesn't dig into my leg in 1st.

    After installing new SKF water pump idler bearings from T. Rutlands (they'd reached the end of their days and had started screaming like a banshee at around 3k), I took the car out for a drive. The temp gauge shot up pretty quickly, so I found a side street to park on. She puked some coolant out the overflow tube and quickly cooled down. I carefully returned to the house, with another in-between stop, managing to keep the gauge in a safe place. Stayed up that night to determine that the thermostatic switch on the radiator is on its way out, so the fans had failed to power on. I have bypassed the switch and looped the wires over the a/c hoses, until I can pick up a new one. Getting ready to drain down the cooling system, so I'll wait to do it then. With the fans bypassed, an expansion tank refill and a couple of good bleed cycles, she's running cool at all speeds.
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  9. Matto

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  10. 60cyclehum

    60cyclehum Karting

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    Congrats, you're doing it all the right way! These cars are a blast to work on, I'm cleaning connections, making adjustments and having a load of fun! It feels great to get an old car , and bring everything back to the way it was supposed to be, isn't it? Pics look great! Did you try cleaning the connections on the fan switch?
     
  11. stevel48

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    I would get it calibrated again Matt. If it isn't new it's a must.
     
  12. Matto

    Matto Formula 3

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    Sure, I'm going to pick up the digital AllTrade unit on Amazon. Great price and features...and I can share it around with friends.

     
  13. Matto

    Matto Formula 3

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    Thank you...and I agree, it is a blast. Every weekend, she's a little more polished and mechanically sound. I've got projects galore, through the remainder of the winter. Looking forward to some heavy cleaning of the underside, getting brake pads on, getting the SRI fuel hose kit installed and switches cleaned and tuned up. As for the thermal switch, I did clean up the contacts. I think it's just worn out. I found some NAPA numbers for a good one with a switch point around 180. I'll give that one a try.

     
  14. Matto

    Matto Formula 3

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    #89 Matto, Feb 3, 2012
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    Today's work. Found the coolant leak at the front driver's side. A minor job to get a new piece of hose in there. It's right at the connection to the core. Also found the Spal blower on the driver's side has seized up. I haven't needed it, but will pick one up from SuperFormance. The passenger's side heater core and blower are ok. Pulling the bad hose and the filters first thing in the morning. It would also be great to get that Clifford unit out of the way. I'm going to add it to my to-do list.

    The blackish goo all over the duct work is overspray from an aftermarket "rustproofing" years ago.
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  15. Matto

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    #91 Matto, Feb 3, 2012
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    Part 3. New water pump idler bearings went in (thank you, T. Rutlands)....silence is golden. New water pump belt (Gates PolyFlex 7M630) and alternator belt (ContiTech AXM10 x 800) went on and new bolts (from Fastenal in Charlotte) with a shot of anti-seize finished it up. I had a hard time finding the AXM10 x 800, but tracked a couple down on eBay. I'm going to cross reference the specs with Gates or Dayco for a long-term supplier.
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    Mr Matto...that bracket is a retainer for one of the front turn signal housings. Looks like a bit of the signal housing came off with it!
     
  18. Matto

    Matto Formula 3

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    Thank you!
     
  19. Brian Harper

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    Are you sure the goo is aftermarket? I've only been under a three 308GTSs, but they all have had that same goo. I think one of the factory assembly videos briefly shows them applying it.
     
  20. Matto

    Matto Formula 3

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    I'm only guessing, as I have an invoice from a Ferrari shop in about '93, with a charge for "rustproofing". It was originally a Pennsylvania car, so maybe he went for extra insurance?

    Some of it got on the inside barrels of the wheels in places as well.
     
  21. Matto

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    #96 Matto, Feb 4, 2012
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    I found the source of my under-fender coolant geyser. The hose had been rubbing on the air diverter mechanism for a long time. It finally became thin enough to burst with last weekend's momentary pressure increase/overheat. The new hose went in about an inch longer, to push it away from the air lever and cable. It was also wrapped to prevent any possible abrasion back in the compartment. A new supply-side hose also went in, with some Goodyear EZ Coils to make the turns, rather than the original folding-over of the hose (ack). Everything was sealed up and wrapped where rubbing might happen. I also opened up both boxes, vacuumed out the customary decomposed filter foam and garbage in there and cut/fitted new filter media. As expected, there was rotted foam EVERYWHERE in the heater valve compartment. Both cores looked good, but I did take some time with a good plastic knife to straighten out the bent fins on the driver's side.

    A good friend then worked the DEF levers for me while I adjusted and checked the diverters. The detents and stop pins on both were bone-dry, so they both got a good dose of Lithium grease. Working smoothly and not jamming now. When the new blowers go in, I think that I'll wrap the intakes in screening to keep the road debris from coming up the pipe or battering the fan vanes. I pulled a cigarette butt out of the driver's side box :D

    I'll top the system off and bleed it tomorrow. It's good to have her repaired and reassembled.
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    #97 Matto, Feb 22, 2012
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    Sunday "staying in from the snow" projects. A new rear defogger switch knob. Corrected the sag in the center console and readjusted the ashtray cover. Everything's very straight now and moves freely. In a while, the clock will go to Nick for restoration.
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  23. John M

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    Unless your clock doesn't work...why not replace the plexi yourself with one of Robert's (Crowndog here on FChat) precut glass pieces? Takes about $25, 30 minutes to pull, install the glass, and reinstall the clock.

    Best Regards,
    John M
     
  24. ferrari308gtsi

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    The car look's GREAT Matt!! Can't wait to see it when it's done.
     
  25. Matto

    Matto Formula 3

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    It runs, but there is significant sticking of the hands/mechanism. I do have a crystal that I bought from Crowndog, it's a beauty. Putting that on this weekend, but will eventually have Nick clean up/lubricate the movement and take care of any gear wear.

    Thank you very much, John :)
     

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