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500 Superfast, the Royal Ferrari

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  1. Boudewijn

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  2. jm2

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    yes that's his Boxer in addition to the original StingRay & the AeroVette/4 Rotor
     
  3. jm2

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    Thank you!
     
  4. Marcel Massini

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    #79 Marcel Massini, Feb 11, 2012
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    This is 8083 SF in 1989 prior to the restoration. It really needed a little love. Owned by fifth owner Bud Pessin of Archway Motors in St.Louis/MO for more than 20 years (1974 to 1995) it was later beautifully restored by Mike Dunn in CA.

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  5. GIOTTO

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    Incredible to see a Superfast in such a state. The design of the massive body with his long tail is just fantastic.
     
  6. Marcel Massini

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  7. GIOTTO

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    Many thanks for your photos, Marcel. I'm glad that #8083SF is in better hands now.
     
  8. Ferrari_250tdf

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    Gunther Sachs never owned a 500 Superfast. His brother Ernst-Wilhem Sachs owned 6309 SF.

    Matthias
     
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  10. carvad

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    #85 carvad, Feb 11, 2012
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    Matthias, you are right, it's my mistake.

    Info that Gunther Sachs owned a 500 Superfast I found at the barchetta in the 500 Superfast - Collectors Corner (http://www.finecars.cc/en/editorial/article/news/500-superfast-for-the-rich-and-famous/index.html). But personal file for the 6309 SF (http://www.barchetta.cc/english/All.Ferraris/Detail/6309SF.500.Superfast.htm) mention Ernst-Wilhelm Sachs as a first owner for this car.
     
  11. JazzyO

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    Lovely. You must miss it!


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  12. Daytonafan

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    #87 Daytonafan, Feb 11, 2012
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    Taken at the November 2010 Surrey Ferrari Owners club Lunch. The location incidentally is the Mulberry Pub owned by Chris Evans who recently acquired 250 GTO 64 4675GT.

    I suspect Jonathan Tremlett may have some better pictures of the SF :)
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  13. Marcel Massini

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  14. Marcel Massini

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    6673 SF sold new August 1965 through Maranello Concessionaires to first owner Harry J. Hyams, a property developer in London. Now back in the original Blu Turchese 23132 A with Beige VM 3309 Natural leather.

    Marcel Massini
     
  15. Ferrari_250tdf

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    Hi Onno, not really. They look better then they drive. They are geared to go 260 - 280 km/h but it got always scary when I tried to go faster then 200 km/h on a German Motorway. So I never tried the top speed. And on a twisty country road my 330 GT is much nicer to drive. Much better balanced. Of course passing other cars in the Superfast was always fun because nobody expected the power of the car.

    I only miss it financially when I see the recent auction results.

    I wonder where 8253 SF is today?

    Best

    Matthias
     
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  16. Marcel Massini

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    Matthias

    I understood you sold it 2006 thru M.B. to USA?

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  17. Ferrari_250tdf

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    NO, I sold it to M.B.
     
  18. Marcel Massini

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    OK, but he later told me he re-sold it to USA.

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  19. fredenzo123

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    On this thread we can see certain 500 SF as stars, and it is really interesting to note their evolution/transformation during more than 45 years.
    But what about "forgotten" 500 SF?

    Are pictures available for the following telaio (old or recent pictures)?
    -5985
    -6033
    -6307
    -6309
    -6351
    -8019
    -8739

    Thanks for sharing.

    Frédéric Liodenot
     
  20. carvad

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  22. Ferrari_250tdf

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  23. SCantera

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    Matthias.....I concur with your assessment of the 500 Superfast driving characteristics. My father convinced his [non-car enthusiast] uncle to purchase one of the 3 Superfasts that were originally delivered to the Dupont family in Wilmington Delaware [my home town]. I believe the first owner was Jerry Riegal. I had the pleasure and excitement to take the burgundy SF on a 250 mile day trip to a car show at the Ocean City MD convention center. This was in the early 80s.

    The drive began carefully as the SF seemed huge compared to my little 330 GTC. Gradually I got a bit more comfortable and began to pour on the benzina. The Superfast engine had more of a lion's roar vs the more machine-like sweet sound of the GTC. As I was getting bolder with speed for some reason I forgot how heavy the car was and did not know the fact that this was a severely underbraked Ferrari. A sudden traffic jam took me by surprise. No big deal I figured. Just hit the brakes. Nothing happened. More pressure began to slow the beast down but we were closing on the cars in front way too fast. I pushed so hard on the stop pedal that my backside came off the seat cushion..........my mind was racing about what would happen if I rear-ended the car in front. But luckily the car came to a halt a few feet from disaster. The car stopped but my heart was racing.

    From then on I just babied it to the show and all the way back home. I only drove the car one more time for a joy ride on the winding back roads that I loved around my home in Northern DE. I cut the drive short because I just could not feel comfortable in the SF. Too big, too heavy, overpowered and underbraked was not my idea of a fun drive.

    My great uncle rarely drove the car. A few years later he traded it in at Algar in exchange for a brand new white Testarossa. From a financial standpoint this was a really bad deal. But nobody in my family or my uncles family liked driving the car. And back then although SF were somewhat valued they were not really sought after in the marketplace. Rare yes. Fun to drive.......well not for me.

    best
    Steve
     
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  24. Bob Zambelli

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    Could somone post a rundown of the different engines in the above mentioned cars?

    I believe there was an assortment of both Columbo and Lampredi V-12s used.

    Some photos of the various powerplants would really help!

    Bob Z.
     
  25. Marcel Massini

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    Gioacchino Colombo it is.
    Columbo was the inspector.

    Marcel Massini
     

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