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  1. Sigmacars

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    I don,t know but this one is made in England for Connoly leather, and i got mine from Rock auto restoration in toronto he get,s them by the case
     
  2. Tricycle

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    Curious to see how your attempt at sound deadening/heat diminishing turned out.

    Also a few fast questions:

    How many layers did you go? Just one or did you put another layer over the first.

    Did you also put any on the inside of the door skins?

    Did you have any temperature gauge or sound gauge reading so you could do a before and after?

    Was there any smell to the product?

    Thanks. I hope it went well.
     
  3. Sigmacars

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    I went one layer
    yes i did the doors
    I tested the product on the bench i took a tourch to an aluminium sheet and checkt the temp.on the other side in seconds it was up to 300 deg F then i put one layer of the product on and the temp would not go over 85 deg F
    there is no smell at all, even after heating it up
     
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    Same thing I did to mine.
     
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    Sigmacars, did you glue the carpet down to the B-Quiet material?
     
  11. Dr Kananga

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    The ceramic coating insulates the pipe, keeping more heat inside.
    Would this put an unnecessary strain on the cooling system as it is designed to have heat radiate off the pipes?

    I guess the same question can be asked about wrapping them with an insulating material.
     
  12. Jonny Law

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    I don't think so. The pipes are for moving the liquid from point A to point B. The radiator is what should be cooling the liquid. Plus, with the supply line mounted next to the return line it would just transfer heat back into the liquid that has been cooled.
     
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    My game plan is to ceramic coat the exhaust system as well as the cooling pipes. There is a guy here locally that does it. But, I do like the look of this for a heat shield under the trunk area, and maybe even the muffler also.

    Thanks.
     
  15. George Vosburgh

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    Take a look at 78 308 Cosmetic Restoration, he uses Dynamat for the entire cabin. I think that would solve the problem.
     
  16. Iain

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    I used it under the trunk area (above the muffler heat shield) and it has made a huge difference to the amount of heat inside the trunk.

    Can you ceramic coat aluminium pipes in the same way as you can with steel? I don't know. The stuff I had put on my exhaust system is fired on at 10,000 degrees! (Zircotec)

    I wouldn't be surprised if two layers fof the Zircoflex was actually more effective anyway. It is very thin ( a bit like heavy guage aluminium foil) so shouldn't cause a problem in that respect.
     
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    You can coat aluminum with out any problems. The only concern I would have with wrapping the exhaust pipes with that material is if water or condensation gets trapped between the layer of material and pipe it would cause corrosion.

    I think it would be great as a heat shield below the trunk with a rear diffuser like a 430 or 360.

    I have the B-Quiet product on order for the cabin and trunk area. Its a Dynamat product, just a little lighter.
     
  18. Iain

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    I wouldn't use it to wrap an exhaust manifold either (though they say it can be used on mufflers etc but I think that would have to be the non adhesive version).

    The stuff I used was self adhesive so if you wrapped it twice round the aly coolant pipes I would have thought it would stick.

    As above, it has worked very well on the underside of the trunk floor. Its easy to use & very light.
     
  19. Hans

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    Impressive work, very nice and clean car.

    One thing I don't understand though:

    Solving NOISE problems? In a Ferrari???

    All I hear when driving is that glorious sound of a barking engine.

    To each his own...
     
  20. Sigmacars

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    no just 2" valcro
     
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    Sure its a great tune, but if it is so loud you go def listening to it. The song will only last so long. Last time I measured my car it was 95 db at 3500 rpm.

    Good to know.
     
  22. Sigmacars

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    The main reason was to get the heat out of the cabin the noise was a bonus,the same for the front and back trunk it got very hot inside in the summer this will help a lot,you can see it all in the pics.
     
  23. Iain

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    The big problem with heat in these cars is much more to do with the windscreen & the whole thing cooking up like a greenhouse I think. I also think you sometimes get some heat coming in from the radiator up over the windscreen.

    But anything you can do to keep heat out can't be bad.
     
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    The problem I discovered was the void under the spare tire well where the battery sits extends past the rack and pinion to the cabin wall. There is no heat barrier here. As far as I can tell the heat from the radiator will build up and bleed through the fiberglass wall to the cabin. The only way for heat to exit is through the fender grills or through the large openings beside the A frames. You could add the grill to the under side which is at the back end of the void, but I think this would add to the cars high speed lifting problem.
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  25. Sigmacars

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    On the 328 this is all closed so there is no opening,i found a lot of heat coming from the heater lines so i wrap,t them and insulate the fire wall , but the floor board was getting hot to from the radiator lines, i will find out soon when i go for a spin.
     

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